The Good the Bad and the Ugly for those who have never seen it is a great Clint Eastwood movie.
Good:
Things we asked for:
- Ability to edit posts was grated.
- The ability to block specific Virily users was granted.
- Notifications were fixed!
- Maximum posts per day limit
New interesting things added beyond what we asked for:
- New look and feel
The Bad:
- Who knows the impact of blocking users.
- Notifications are a big change (fixed the amount, but now you have to do a little more work). Overall this one is very interesting.
- The site is slower overall
- Views are down
- Profile views don’t always match, Virils are the same but harder to see what is trending. (when someone comments 12 times instead of one, it inflates the comment list without increasing the views of the post). I would love to see them swap the most commented for most viewed. Viewed is a much more important and critical measure than tracking comments (some users comment multiple times, some users only comment once in a longer comment)
- There is now a maximum number of posts allowed in a day.
- Everyone appears to have been reset to Newbie for Virily 2.0
The Ugly:
- When you edit a post, it appears as if a brand new post. That makes it easy to abuse the system.
There are some things that still aren’t working as projected. The site is slower, and honestly, views are down because it is harder to do what you used to do; people are struggling. Let’s see where we are in a couple of days! I think, as a community, we need to watch the impact of editing posts. If you consider that there are things that bother you in a post, go ahead and edit it. But if it is something you can live with, consider not editing the post for now.
To block a user go to their profile page.
Thanks all!!!!
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Question of
I have already edited a post
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Yes
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will you share in the comments how you went about editing your post?
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Yes
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I have already blocked a user?
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Yes
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No
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I am happy to see the Good list, I will tell you which of the bad I think is worst in the comments
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Yes
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No
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comments are something that is important to authors?
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Yes
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No
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When you don’t leave a comment you send a message right?
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Yes
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No
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There are a lot of people whose posts you read?
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Yes
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I won´t be editing any posts.
i am in that boat as well.
Q: I HAVE ALREADY EDITED A POST
Yes (7 votes) – 100%
Q: WILL YOU SHARE IN THE COMMENTS HOW YOU WENT ABOUT EDITING YOUR POST?
Yes (5 votes) – 100%
Q: I HAVE ALREADY BLOCKED A USER?
Yes (2 votes) – 12%
No (15 votes) – 88%
Q: I AM HAPPY TO SEE THE GOOD LIST, I WILL TELL YOU WHICH OF THE BAD I THINK IS WORST IN THE COMMENTS
Yes (10 votes) – 91%
No (1 votes) – 9%
Q: COMMENTS ARE SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO AUTHORS?
Yes (14 votes) – 93%
No (1 votes) – 7%
Q: WHEN YOU DON’T LEAVE A COMMENT YOU SEND A MESSAGE RIGHT?
Yes (4 votes) – 27%
No (11 votes) – 73%
Q: THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHOSE POSTS YOU READ?
Yes (15 votes) – 100%
I am not too well the last couple of days so I haven’t experimented much here. Nope, I will not block any user but if anyone blocks me I couldn’t care less.
i am so sorry to hear that I hope you are feeling better! I understand your feelings on blocking users what about the concept of reposting old things?
As I have said on another comment on another post about all the changes, I have to admit I enjoy the new look because it is more modern and more social looking. I have not noticed any slowness in loading or whatever else. It will take some time before every Virylians gets used to this brand new Virily. But I am offended that I am a Newbie even though my number of years as a member are still showing the right number….
the only thing that really bothers me is the slowness. I am only able to open/read about 20 posts a day now.
Glad you like the new look. If it helps all of us are Newbies.
I am not able to get around as much as I like too. I have found that if you open up more than one tap here things tend to really go bad. The site is a little slower and it takes more time to do things. I do like the new look. I have not edited any of my posts as of yet. I have noticed that views have gone way down. But, given some more time they may go back up again.
we, the author community, only get paid when views are up. But your point are well taken, and yes it feels really slow to me!
Well, I have been changed from “Legend” to “Newbie”..I don’t understand what would happen if I blocked a user from my site. I have no reason to do that, nor do I want to
However, the notifications have been a huge pile that I have been unable to keep up with and I notice that has lessened but has it lessened my virils?
I think it takes a while to discover the full impact of these changes and yes, for me the site is slow.
so far, virils are the same so the easy button no that doesn’t hurt you. What was reduced was the noise notifications (opens, posting content etc).
I moved to newbie as well. So did everyone as far as I can tell.
I think the site is really slow right now.
one wonders if editing a post with stripped content would refresh said content…
that is a great question, i have no idea pal.
I tried it and no joy. but I will get to the bottom of this…
L0( that is the best way to figure this stuff out. Helps remove all the disinformation on the site currently!
this is a tough bug to troubleshoot
i always figure that information will eventually flow from the admin team. of course, now that I am a newbie I can reset my expectations!
hahaha I am also a noob now
i think we all are. my personal opinion is they did that when they cleaned out the old code.
given the timing, it is the most likely explanation…
sadly i think that is the case.
as far as virily issues go, more than willing to overlook this one
i agree we do have bigger fish to fry
keep your eye on the prize
I was happy to be able to edit two of my quizzes only odd thing was that I always double-check each of my quizzes before posting. When I went to edit my African landmarks quiz I noted that I remembered fixing all the problems before publishing therefore after or during the publishing process somehow the quiz got all messed up again I sure hope that won’t happen every time.
let me know on that, I am not editing my old posts right now for a variety of reasons. I would like them to fix the reset issue first, but that is wholly my choice and my issue!
As with all changes, there are both good and bad sides. I have not yet edited the post or blocked the user. I don’t feel the need to do this right now. How many posts are allowed per day? Maybe I’m most “bothered” by the site’s announcements and slowness. I’m a little sorry for the comments, because I don’t always have the time to respond to comments repeatedly. I prefer to read posts and learn something new ?
we do what we can do, no need to apologize!
slow makes me nervous right now.
8 posts appear to be the maximum. It was one of the things we sent to the admin team over the summer!
On balance I am very pleased with the recent changes. For a long time, it was discouraging to feel that our suggestions for site improvement were being ignored, but now it is apparent that we have indeed been heeded. Not everything has been addressed, but the ability to edit and delete our own posts is a very substantial gain. It was a shock to discover, when I edited a post simply as a test, to discover that it was published anew and went to the top of the list. There are quite a number of my posts that I would edit (for instance, to add links to later quizzes in the same series), if it were not for that fact.
Blocking is something that doesn’t concern me, so far at least, though it seems odd that it does not prevent the blocked user from commenting on one’s posts…
it does not prevent them which is kind of pointless. I suspect they are working on v 2 of that.
from the list we built as a community last summer, it really is much of what we asked for!
Yes, we should focus on the positive+++ 😀
that was why I led with the good.
we asked for many of the changes that were made as a community,. That is awesome that they responded!
I didn’t know about the posts per day limit. How many posts per day?
And what do you mean by abusing the system by editing a post and it appearing as new? I haven’t tried yet, but I think that it’s not bad if some seasonal posts reappear, assuming that the author won’t get new virils from the same people who have already seen it. Sorry for the stupid questions, but I am always a bot behind.
From what I have noticed, around 8 per day is max.
Thanks, Carol! I barely post one, so I am not worried, but it’s good to know. 🙂
thanks for the update Carol that is awesome!
Basically, you can take an old post that is no longer either trending or in most commented, edit it and it appears as a new post, but carries the old comments and views so in effect it can jump onto the leader board right away.
I still don’t see this as a problem, to be honest. It’s like that on many platforms, updated posts appear in most recent.
it may not be a problem. It may be. we shall see. It changes the comment and trending posts for everyone else when you pull a post that previously had 30 or 50 comments. it becomes number one right away.
Ah, I understand now, thanks for explaining! I personally check my friends’ posts first, as well as the topics I am interested in, so what’s trending doesn’t affect my actions much. I apologize in advance if me editing some of my old posts turns out to be a trouble for someone!
if you want to clean them up please do so! I am more worried about people gaming the system on purpose to keep their post-high.
Many people comment on the posts in the most commented grouping. normally they wouldn’t comment on posts, but they see that one trending and comment!
I guess if people want to play the system, they will always find a way.
i like to believe there is good in everyone.
but yes some will bend the rules for personal gain.
People don’t really make it because they are bad, maybe they are just overly competitive or really need the money, who knows.
i have always believed that most people are good first.
🙂
Maybe because you yourself are a good person! Not that I know anything about statistics, but the way I see it, 1/3 of people could be considered mostly good, 1/3 are neutral/act depending on the situation, and 1/3 are not that good. However, in reality, I believe that people are complex, so not just good or bad,and that’s what makes us interesting.
well from a good person to another good person, so are you my friend!
🙂
For me, things are mysterious here … you don’t see whether you get Virily or you don’t open a co-op … in short you don’t see when and how many Virily you get … everything is mysterious and opaque
it has been interesting the past few days pal! oh to live in interesting times!
You can see your virils when you click “more” in the bar on top of your profile, then “virils”.
in theory they also appear (daily total) on your profile page.
I have a feeling that this daily total is not accurate. I noticed it a few years ago and since then I don’t look at it anymore. In fact, I can’t even find it right now, haha.
i hope the one in the profile menu is right! fingers crossed!
It is new to me that the edited post appears like a new one again. So, if we do not want to abuse, we should correct all mistakes before posting (what not always happens, however). About blocking, I have no intention to block someone here if only he/she will not insult me hardly. I want to think, Virily monitors all cheaters and is blocking them.
I do understand all your points my intent for blocking is the same as yours, only if someone attacks me. The repost issue is a huge concern.
I see nothing wrong in updating old posts – i.e. introducing new elements and not merely correcting typos and grammatical errors. If you can give new life to an old post in this way, why not? You won’t get any “publishing” Virils, but you are surely entitled to the “viewing” Virils that this will entail.
the issue is that it maintains its previous status. So if it had 30 comments or more originally the edited version starts as a new post but maintains the previous 30 comments so it leaps onto the leaderboard.
Once you are on the leaderboard your views increase every time.
that is the bug right now. if it were truly posted as a new post, there would be no issues. it is posted as if original stayed.
Yes, I see what you mean. However, even if the post had a low number of comments the first time round it will still pop to the top of the “latest” list for everyone to see.
If this proves to be a difficult problem to solve, the danger is that the facility to edit posts might be withdrawn altogether.
i think it should be a reset. First iteration and then the second iteration starts at zero as if a brand new post!
Gotta keep up with the times, everything is always changing. Do you know if there is a page were we can see how many viriles we get with each thing we do, like signing in, do we still get 10?
yes I knew but I haven’t looked to see what was kept and what if anything had changed. I don’t know if we still get 10 Virils for the first log in of the day but will check!
Thanks, I am just now getting back to writing, since I am no longer a caregiver.
i look forward to your new shares. Sorry, again, for your loss.
Yes, we do get 10 virils for site visit. I haven’t noticed any changes in the amount of virils yet. You can see details for each action if you open your profile, then “more” and then “virils”.
i did check and you are right we still get the site visit virils!
Yes I accidentally edited an old post and it was re-published. Was looking at an old “Classic List” post and most of the pics were gone, exited out, and it published. I asked admin to remove.
I am really worried about that.
And…. now we only get 10 virils for polls instead of 30. Crazy!
i haven’t seen that but considering the source, I hope that is not true.
It is not from what I am seeing. 🙂
that is great news! not that it really matters much right now. hopefully, that isn’t changing without warning/updates from the admins!
That would be a huge deal breaker.
it would really hurt, figure that would be between 140 and 200 virils lost per week if in fact that were true.
I really hope the situation won’t result in spreading misinformation and making people give up on the site, because the way virily is right now, it values members’ activity and intereactions more than anything else.
I posted my last poll on Friday and I got 30 virils.
yes Carol confirmed that things are still working.
i hope you are right and that disinformation and nastiness doesn’t take over the site.
Today is a happy new day!!!!
Oh my God , I am hoping for the best in future
so am I hopefully things will get better.
So there is a limit on the number of posts you can submit per day? What is it and how do you know that this is so?
I found out from three users that they were stopped from posting. It is interesting but the limit does appear to be pretty high.
I did four posts on Saturday as I always do and had no issue.
Thanks, Doc, that’s interesting. I don’t often feel tempted to do more than four, so I’m unlikely to hit the ceiling very often if at all. From what you say it sounds to be somewhat more than that.
It would, of course, be useful to have the rules available somewhere.
in fact it would be fantastic to understand the rules!
It’s a novel idea, you think? lol
Oh my goodness. I tried to edit a post and I don’t know-how. I can’t find the directions. I have many where I have ?. because of an issue with my hand. I wish all those titles could be fixed. It reminds me every day that my hands are not normal and shake and my illness is out there for everyone to see.
Most of my views come from outside this community and that seems to mean nothing.
I don’t understand limiting post – is there really too much to read. As long as people are viewing I don’t see how there can be too much.
Then again, I am stupid. I guess it all comes out in the wash.
in fact it does seem to mean nothing to gain outside views.
I am wondering about that. I haven’t tried it because of the repost back at the top issue.
That is very sad because if it stays as is it dies. Outside views are most often where the $$ comes in. I have no idea what the real issues are. I am just kind of drifting right now. It’s been a very long day and a longer week. But tomorrow is a whole new day!
tomorrow is a new day!!!! well today now
I haven’t tried editing yet, but I found where the button it is. Open your profile, click “More”, then “Posts”, and then under the post there are 3 dots. From there, you can select “edit”.
i think a lot of folks are waiting on some of the new features.
Wow, just found out about all this.
Embrace change …. I’ve often said this is a good idea
it has been an interesting holiday week – lots of change!
View is more important than comment? One can view without reading. What is the point of viewing without interacting? When a reader comments, that is how we can gauge if he or she understands the article. Also, we can discern if the topic we tackled is interesting/helpful or not.
that is more from the perspective of movement on the site overall. IE 100 views and 1 comment is more of a moving article than one with 50 views and 10 comments.
I didn’t know when a post is edited it is published as new. In this case it might be easily abused. Well, for now I will not edit my posts till it’s rectified. It won’t serve as justice to the site.
The dashboard. It matters a lot.
the dashboard has been a thorn in our side for 3 years.