DocAndersen
Good morning and welcome to the new Virily.
Four days ago, I wrote about the value of comments. Now, as you see from my virils this morning, that post came home to roost. There has been a numb er of issues over the years of Virily, and many of them have had restrictions created because of them.
- The one and done commenter or commenting on everything but never responding to replies
- The post and never reply to comments
- The cover poster posting six or more posts every day (now the max is 6 for everyone)
- The under commenter (excellent, right)
- The drafts issue (ancient problem)
- False positives (over commenting on your post) no rules yet, but this one is. Next, I would guess.
All of these have had responses from the admin team. As they all should, the current one brings back the post I made four days ago. You can find that post here. The newest change to Viril is in direct response to the users (there are a few) who either post and never reply to comments on their job and the people that overcommitted without responding or having the conversation.
As I mentioned before, there is a path forward now. The good news is there is still a way to build virils. It may force a different model for a lot of users, but it can be done. It is all about the value of a comment. If you comment on someone’s post, and they reply, you reply, then the amount of the post gain. Yes, you can post a poll and get the initial blast. You can post six times and so on. But now the value is in conversational comments. Note this is not about one at a time over commenting. It is about having a conversation, just like I mentioned in my post of 4 days ago.
Comments matter, threads matter, and now if you want to gain virils on the site, you need to consider the new model connect with people and build conversations! Personally, there are several ways to make this work for all of us. I will say the admin is watching the other over the commenting problem (someone responds to your post, and your comment ten times), so don’t start doing that. We don’t want any more significant changes made because people adopt the over commenting on their post issue.
It is a brave new world, but we have a path forward.
The rise of conversations on Virily has begun! I promise you if you reply to me, i will make sure to visit and reply to you! The longer the conversation thread, the more virils we can all earn!!!
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Question of
It is time for our community to work togheter, right?
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Yes
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No
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Please don’t become an over commenter that is the next thing they will take
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Yes
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No
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Question of
The value of conversations and comments is important to me
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Yes
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No
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i love conversations on the site!
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Yes
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Q: IT IS TIME FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO WORK TOGHETER, RIGHT?
Yes (19 votes) – 95%
No (1 votes) – 5%
Q: PLEASE DON’T BECOME AN OVER COMMENTER THAT IS THE NEXT THING THEY WILL TAKE
Yes (13 votes) – 93%
No (1 votes) – 7%
Q: THE VALUE OF CONVERSATIONS AND COMMENTS IS IMPORTANT TO ME
Yes (17 votes) – 94%
No (1 votes) – 6%
Q: I LOVE CONVERSATIONS ON THE SITE!
Yes (18 votes) – 95%
No (1 votes) – 5%
Well, we just need to adjust and follow the changes.
yes, for some of us (we’ve been here 4 years) this isn’t the first big change.
So it’s 2:51 am and I got up to do a little on Virily before my training from @#$% starts again today. I was so happy to see the light on. I needed it, it’s dark at 2:51 am.
the join of posts on the internet – the light is always on!
Well, they have made it more and more difficult to earn here, you have to do much more to earn now. That mean you could be spending a whole day here to comment and earn less than before.
I have no problems commenting, in fact I love commenting and interacting with friendly people . I hope people will get more interactive.
I would say two things – first I completely agree with you. But second, this new thing only works if they do a better job of approving posts quickly or move more to verified status.
thank you ,Dr anderson for detail clarification on this.
thanks – glad you found value!
That makes sense and in the long run will be more worthwhile. Thanks for the heads up. I need to get back in a writing mood!
i hope you do – I enjoy your posts! plus you share places I have been that have such a rich history!
Thank you for clarifying all this Doc and glad you informed us.
I am happy to help any way I can!
I also think it’s a matter of time for the reward for comments to be gone as well, unfortunately.
I have been wondering why people do or don’t certain things, but everyone has their own limitations – time, language, knowledge in a topic, etc.
i know we asked in July and of course got no response, but for a community board here on the site, With a rotating group of authors setting rules/standards. i wonder if that isn’t a good idea.
I really don’t know what to think, Virily is giving us a clear sign that something is wrong with the site. Sometimes I comment, sometimes I don’t, it always depends on my time. I don’t post polls or articles everyday too, I don’t know if the site will work for me from now on. 😔
i think what Virily has done is basically take two issues on with this change. The first issue is people who post but do not reply to comments – they get some value now, but my gut is if you don’t reply people aren’t going to read your posts.
the other group is that group that gained a lot of Virils commenting on many posts and not replying to the author’s reply.
The value now for all if us, is the original comment, the author reply and then the reader replying again!
True conversation is the value of being yourself. I like this new move.
we have had many great conversations here – i learned so much about your love of birds from our conversations about Louie!
(and discussions of the cool bird pictures) I look forward to more!!!
I am just a traveller learning and sharing the wonder of it all! Thanks Doc.
you do very well as a teacher, mentor and guide!
I can say the same of you Doc, its great what you do.
thank you for the kind words. You made my day today!
Things are certainly changing. Looks like payment will be made quarterly perhaps. They are slowly taking away all avenues of making virils. Oh well, we will do what we can and hope for the best. Like I do every day in my life. 🙂
you are a guiding light carol. Thank you for everything you do!
I assumed there had to be changes. Unfortunately, I was expecting something like this. Some members have really “exploited” this site. As you know, I have repeatedly mentioned that some members do not return comments or do not comment at all.
you have mentioned that many times. You have my word, i will happily comment on your posts (I love them) and make sure you get Virils every time you post!!!
Thank you so much for your kindness. I will gladly return your comments.
i will comment on everything you write! and if it is a walk double!
Thank you again. I am a bit late for comments (answers) but I will make up for the delay
Don’t worry about it, we do what we can do! I found comments I had missed 3 years ago!!!
But it was said we do not longer receive viryls when we comment posts. Has it changed now???
if you look at the cover page of this post you will see my virils from today, with virils awarded for my posts and no other comment virils.
so no whoever said that was wrong.
Ok. I read some articles here that said we were not receiving virilys when commenting posts. This is great, because I tend to comment all the articles that I read.
it becomes, as I said a few days ago the art of conversation! Conversation on my post as an author benefits me. Conversations on your post benefit you!!!
Okay, so they took away drafts because of the cheating problem from way back? So, the quizzes and polls will never be like they used to be? How did they fix the 1-3? What were the changes? I am lost, and also guilty of commenting, then thinking of something I didnt mention and leaving another. So that’s a problem? I thought I read somewhere this morning that they took away virils for commenting? I also havent been paying attention to the virils and what makes money now.
1 – you get no credit for commenting on the posts of others only on your posts.
2 – the fix for 1 fixes issue 2 as well
3 – you can now post a maximum of 6 posts.
they took away virils for commenting on the works of others. you get credit
Okay, thank you. So, by taking away virils for commenting on others posts, wouldnt that make people not want to comment on other posts? How does this help?
i suspect they were trying to fix the one and done commenters (earning way more virils by commenting on a lot of posts and moving on (seldom replying)!
That did bug me. But, I still feel that this will make more people just give up on the site.
honestly, they have been slow to move on anything. my suspicion is that their ad revenue is way down.
They might be working with a skeleton crew during all this. They wont say anything so who knows.
my gut is the 45 days without ads really hurt the site financially.
How many times should a commenters come after the first reply? Great hope for the site.
it really depends. I know you and i have had 10 comment deep threads mostly about you throwing food at me, but always fun!
I need to throw food at you again sis has been feeling bad due to trying to help someone that has problems and it is hurting my whole family.
you can always throw food at me!
Ok here is the messiest pie ever right in your face.
truly what a sister would do!
But only whould the best sister give you a big napkin to clean your face afterwards lol.
and then yell at me for getting the good napkin dirty! 🙂
I laughed with you not at you lol. I am a good sister not an evil step sister lol. You are the best and you know it.
you are i agree! you, are awesome as well!!!!
It’s a good thing some initiated are being undertaken by the admin. We should work as a community, not as a loner. Unless those who post expecting not less, not much.
they do tend to overreact – my fear is the over commenting by an author on their own post!
I am guilty of that as well.
i think we all are at times.
I read the post very carefully. But did I understand the most important thing.
1. It doesn’t matter how many posts you have posted for the day.
2. The more conversation you have, the more you respond to the comments in your posts.
3 The same applies to responding to your comments in other posts you have visited.
so you get credit for all comments on your post. what that means is to take the concept you proposed one step further, have longer conversations on your own posts and the posts of others then we all benefit!
Although it’s not great I do agree that some unfortunate situations that we face recently because some members “abuse” the system for their own benefits.
Like overly publish a post daily just because they don’t need to wait for their post to be approved. I also found some who just post but never engage by comment or view others post.
the reality now is if you want to succeed, you have to build conversations! it is a different model than we have had before!
It is different, but I’m not sure with how max virils count for the comment, is it ten per post or ten per one branch of reply?
that sadly is something we will find out in the next few days.
That’s what I like about your post. You do a lot of research here in Virily.
thank you very much to help everyone!
It is difficult to start a conversation. It depends on the subject of the post. We are not initiated in all the topics present in the posts.
I agree with you Ileana.
Thank you, Andre! 🙂
i suspect we all struggle with this – it is hard sometimes but the new reality!
we have had many conversations over the past years – i enjoy the opportunity to hear your thoughts!
We’ve had a few conversations about topics I know, but we’ve never had conversations about technology, your favorite topic!
that is ok – i enjoyed our conversation today about the eyes of the soul and photography. I learn about things from our conversation and that also makes me happy!!
I dont think I have ever over-commented unless its within a particular conversation. I just don’t have the energy to do that. I need to move around instead of being cooped up behind a screen. That’s just me though : )
Yes, Thomas, I agree so, if anything, I under comment. My health allows me limited windows of opportunity and I must do what feel is right, few comment on my stuff, seriously, no hard feelings, the few that do, I consider a worthy and discerning group of individuals anyhow. That’s just me.
we’ve had many conversations here andre, it is simply the process of posting and carrying on conversations on the works of others as well as your own posts!
I’m obviously including you and a handful of individuals, (you know who I mean), I consider my intellectually discerning readership.
i would love to have some deep dive conversations – some of your posts are incredibly touching, some of your posts are really fun to think about!
let’s argue, discuss and make deep conversation threads so you get the credit you deserve!
i doubt you have as well, just laying out the reasons the admins have reacted in the past!
Good Morning Doc, and thanks for giving us all a clear picture and a way forward. I had just stopped by on my way to work and found it comforting to find your post here. It seems like forging ahead with relevant comments, great SEO, meaningful and interesting posts are the way to go. I think that is simply going back to our core.
I am off to training soon, but I am not gone forever.
i treasure every comment you leave here!
I find the importance of this site for me is the conversations with authors. Apparently the admins do as well!
Well, I am still amidst learning how to make unemployment claims! Back to the basics of programs that really are not fill in the blank. Apparently teaching an old dog new tricks takes a lot more time. I will try and stop by as much as I can. My friends live here.
we will keep a light on! do what you can do!