First of all, a huge thank you for every single comment and vote so far. This is the last in my what is wrong with Virily series!
- Over the past six days, I have conducted two experience, One is ongoing. The other finished up yesterday. I asked six different authors to edit old posts. Four of them had posts that were not heavily commented or viewed the first time. The result was they edited the psots, and 5 of the six posts edited did not make it to the Most COMmented list. They also only gained a small number of views. (if they had 40 views before editing, 24, and then 48 hours later they had 45 views) The reality is edited posts do not help you as the author.
- One of the posts based on my project was intentionally from an author that would be on the Most Commented list. That post was on the list right away. The gain as projected in my hypothesis, was around 18%. But, that post kept another user off the most commented list. When posts are on that list, they gain comments, views and increased interaction.
- My feelings at this point, please be careful when you edit posts. If your post that you wish to edit has 20 comments or more, you will make the most commented list and impact other authors. IF it has less than ten comments right, go ahead and edit the post! It won’t impact anybody else. I will caution you. However, edited posts do not gain the same level of interaction that new posts do! Remember that if you post a highly commented edited post of the past, you won’t gain a lot, and you do impact yourself, and other authors on the site.
One of the things that make Virily so special is the same thing that makes Niume special, and many of the other sites like this that have existed in the past (TSU is another there are many more) is our community. I got a lot of wonderful comments from people in the community and have shaped the overall poll questions passed on the wonderful comments. I will leave you today with a thought raised by a couple of authors.
We have no control over most of what happens on Virily.
What we do have control over is what we post, what we read, and comments!
The more we comment, the more we help other authors.
Perhaps it is time for the 25 positive comment challenge. (leave 25 positive comments on 25 posts)! I know Carol, Lado, Vidocka, Ellie935, Ghostwriter and many others would have a head start. But we could do that!
Last 2 posts (to compare poll questions)
https://virily.com/virily_poll/community-input-added-what-is-wrong-with-virily/
https://virily.com/virily_poll/what-is-wrong-with-virily/
i edited this post to prove a point. It is important that we understand the impact of the edit button on other posts!
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Comments are down because of the site negativity right now?
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Comments are down because many people only comment on the posts of authors they know?
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I have noticed Doc not commenting on my posts?
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Views are down because of the negativity?
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Views are down because content quality is down?
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Comments are down because we have many fewer active authors right now?
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Comments are down because of the holidays.
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Views are down because of the holidays
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We have lost many regular contributors this year right?
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Comparing Virily and Hubpages, the views are down partially because it is holiday though it’s not the overall reason. On Hubpages I gain a lot of traffic during November and December but not so this year. Some factors may contribute aside from it being the holiday.
We did lost some of regular users and some things are outside of our control. And over here it is you do this to me I will do the same to you attitude.
the reality of downvotes always amazed me. I have gotten a few, but after the first one I gave (and the person blew up downvoting 20 of my posts) I stopped.
it is an interesting issue.
Thanks for your thoughts. Does HubPages pay?
That is an interesting observation.
Yes, Hubpages does pay. As an information site, they look for longer articles >600 words. Some users there earn up to $300. As a technology expert, you will benefit there by providing informative and advice articles. There is a user there who concentrates on beauty and another one on mechanics and they earn pretty well. Sometimes, I make up to $100. Mostly I earn $60.
i will have to take a look. thanks for the data!!!!
I will never edit a post
i can see a need to edit posts that have lots of errors. I have several. I would like them to fix the current issues with the posts being right back on top.
Honestly, I have not reported anything and there are only a couple that I have been thinking about reposting. That is do to the links in the posts. My edit post thing isn’t coming up for me anyway. I love the 25 positive comments a day challenge and is something I will try to do.
it can be hard to find 25 pieces you can make positive about. who knows if it will work!!!
All the same, I will try and do my best to be more active here. I share posts and pin them. I am trying my best to do my part to keep Virily going. I feel, that is all I can really do to help it.
hey do what you can do, we are all rowing the ship together! no pressure and no rules just what you can do!
Well, as usual, I understood some of what you said but some not. But that is just little old me. I think I just might have to get myself tested for a touch of Alzheimers or dementia or something. Anyway, I edited one of my post not too long ago because I found it was full of typo errors and it was pissing me off. But I have not checked my other posts yet for possible editing. I personally think that the Holidays has an impact on the attendance of Virily right now. I am a prime example of this as I did not even log in on Christmas Day. I wish though that we could get outside views from the general public as once I started to write on Virily, I just googled part of one my posts’s title and there it was on Google ME as a writer. It was a great feeling… But all for all, I will remain with Virily though thick or thin as the community is just fantastic…
thanks – good input. We want a community voice right! The google search thing is something I’ve also played with! it is fun to see your name in the search results!
I believe the holidays plays a part…
who knows where some of the users are now…
Japan eating Sushi or having Icelandic beer in Iceland … LOL
two great goals!
we’ve lost so many writers. Sometimes people leave and come back.
we are down from the numbers from last year’s holiday season as well sadly.
1st poll
Q: I PROMISE I AM NOT ANTI-EDITED POSTS, OK?
Yes (14 votes) – 93%
No (1 votes) – 7%
Q: PROMISE YOU WILL NOT JUSTIFY EDITING POSTS IN THE COMMENTS, OK?
Yes (11 votes) – 85%
No (2 votes) – 15%
Q: I CHECK THE MOST COMMENTED LIST OF POSTS EVERY DAY?
Yes (7 votes) – 44%
No (9 votes) – 56%
Q: I CHECK THE TRENDING LIST OF POSTS EVERY DAY>?
Yes (6 votes) – 40%
No (9 votes) – 60%
Q: I KNOW WHY COMMENTS ARE DOWN FROM LAST YEAR? (SHARE IN THE COMMENTS PLEASE)
Yes (5 votes) – 29%
No (12 votes) – 71%
Q: I HAVE NO CLUE WHY COMMENTS ARE DOWN
Yes (11 votes) – 73%
No (4 votes) – 27%
Q: I HAVE NO CLUE WHY VIEWS ARE DOWN.
Yes (13 votes) – 87%
No (2 votes) – 13%
2nd survey
Q: I THINK VIRILS ARE DOWN BECAUSE OF THE NEGATIVITY ON THE SITE NOW?
Yes (9 votes) – 75%
No (3 votes) – 25%
Q: I THINK VIRILS ARE DOWN BECAUSE WE DON’T GET CREDIT FOR GUEST VIEWS ANYMORE?
Yes (9 votes) – 75%
No (3 votes) – 25%
Q: I THINK COMMENTS ARE DOWN BECAUSE POST QUALITY IS DOWN?
Yes (8 votes) – 62%
No (5 votes) – 38%
Q: THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE THE MOST COMMENTED LIST IS TO SUBMIT AN OLD (EDITED POST) OR WRITE ABOUT WHAT IS WRONG WITH VIRILY
Yes (6 votes) – 46%
No (7 votes) – 54%
3rd survey
Q: COMMENTS ARE DOWN BECAUSE OF THE SITE NEGATIVITY RIGHT NOW?
Yes (4 votes) – 44%
No (5 votes) – 56%
Q: COMMENTS ARE DOWN BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE ONLY COMMENT ON THE POSTS OF AUTHORS THEY KNOW?
Yes (9 votes) – 100%
Q: I HAVE NOTICED DOC NOT COMMENTING ON MY POSTS?
Yes (4 votes) – 40%
No (6 votes) – 60%
Q: VIEWS ARE DOWN BECAUSE OF THE NEGATIVITY?
Yes (7 votes) – 78%
No (2 votes) – 22%
Q: VIEWS ARE DOWN BECAUSE CONTENT QUALITY IS DOWN?
Yes (6 votes) – 60%
No (4 votes) – 40%
Q: COMMENTS ARE DOWN BECAUSE WE HAVE MANY FEWER ACTIVE AUTHORS RIGHT NOW?
Yes (8 votes) – 80%
No (2 votes) – 20%
Q: COMMENTS ARE DOWN BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAYS.
Yes (6 votes) – 67%
No (3 votes) – 33%
Q: VIEWS ARE DOWN BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAYS
Yes (7 votes) – 88%
No (1 votes) – 13%
Q: WE HAVE LOST MANY REGULAR CONTRIBUTORS THIS YEAR RIGHT?
Yes (7 votes) – 70%
No (3 votes) – 30%
glad you are coming back!!! well the problem with that list is the reality of the over-comment issue. So I do agree with that one.
It is an interesting problem.
brute forcing my notifications list always gives me at least 25 people to reply to
Doc said to leave only positive comment and I am like “hmmmm ?” because that might affect my commenting in yours ?
i didn’t say positive only comments! Don’t get me in trouble!
??? Awww, come on. It is a good idea. A constructive criticism is still positive if one is openminded ?. Besides maybe we should practice that a bit more. That or to keep silent when we have nothing good to say.
man pixies love to stir up trouble.
yeah they do. bigtime…
I am fond of little mischiefs, true, like annoying you guys. But the second comment was actually sincere. Something I try to practice. I practice scrolling down past posts and ignoring negative comments unless one does that in my post (because hey it moves the post and so I better amuse myself ? see, I see silver lining behind clouds ?)
constructive criticism takes years to master. I know, I keep trying!
I find i have 25 or more replies every morning!
The pixie is always a gift. Sometimes she makes us look within ourselves and make sure we are doing things for the right reason.
Darn pixie!
you just can’t stay mad at a pixie, try as you might…
i gave up trying, pixies know how to tell really bad dad jokes!
those are the best kind…
that is very true! i love dad jokes!
Well, Christmas is a very busy season and also I have had other situations why I have not been on Virily so often. However, things may soon look up.
I am still here but often just don’t get the opportunity to go on to Virily when I want to.
i understand Pam. Sadly we are down from last years (holidays) overall..
I will try to be on Virily as much as I can.
Pam we love having you as much as you can be on!!!
I hope that my comment does not take any member too personally. That’s just my opinion and I don’t want to hurt anyone. I assume the most views and comments are by members who are “more popular, better known …”. I don’t know what I found the right words. As I have mentioned many times, I cannot and do not want to force anyone to watch and comment on posts. So I try to keep myself as low on this as possible. I certainly comment every day for 25 posts and more. Maybe the number of comments went down because they restricted the viriles. I often think if new members know the “way” of working. Unfortunately, many of the old members left.
i think your statements are not in any way offensive. I always enjoy reading your posts and I always comment on all of them!
I am worried that so many of the old members are gone now.
Thank you so much for your support. I learned that I have to be very careful with words. Some members are very “sensitive”. I don’t want to get into any unnecessary conflict. ?
i have your back as we say in the US!
FYI, did you paid for September?>
Yes, I can’t believe they finally fixed the bug. I received a payment for 3 months.
they promised me they would in three emails! I am glad they kept their word!
Thanks again for your help
you do not need to thank me. We are a community, we all survive together!
Actually, I never check any most commented posts. If we care about our, as writers’, reputation, we will edit all damaged posts no matter how many comments they have. At least, I will do that. I am not a big commenter here, because my time at Virily is limited, so my posts anyway have not many comments, I hope I will not impact badly others users with my edited posts.
i haven’t seen many of your edited posts pop to the top of the list. I don’t think that is an issue if you are cleaning up old posts with few comments.
Let’s get team virily to fix this issue so we can go edit some of the older highly commented posts!
Views and comments are falling …. unlikely because of the holidays … but it is true that quite a few permanent members have disappeared with new members so nothing … I don’t remember when a new member would comment on me
i do worry about that, I think you have hit upon one of the issues. The good news is we have many new members!
the bad news is we have fewer older members.
Hopefully, things stabilize soon!!!!
There really are a lot of new members just as you can see with nothing at all …. any of the new members have already commented to you on the post?
not as many as on Carol’s (she is the tops at helping new users)! but a few have
Leaving time aside, we will see how everything goes together
i am confident that in fact it will get better!
Your observation and statistic are always on a different level.
thank you very much for the kind words.
From the print screen with which you exemplify your “theory”, I find that my edited posts have greatly affected you! Can I do something to make you not be so upset??
hey you haven’t offended me personally in any way. I just worry that the posts when edited if they appear in the most commented, keep someone else from being there.
i am more worried about the site impact of that.
I have, asked the admin team to reset edited posts to zero (don’t give credit for the old comments) hopefully they will get that fixed.
But you haven’t offended me, just want to make sure we still have a site in 5 months!!!
I don’t want to be there but … don’t my posts deserve to be among the most commented? Just asking! In other news, I think you’re joking when you suggest that the site will be down because of the edited posts! I think admins will take care of the site much better than a user can. Don’t you think so? If they feel that editing is not beneficial they will ban this. So I say let’s be calm and let the administrators decide. Let’s not worry about a user can lose few views! Everyone has the views they deserve and does not depend on whether the posts are or are not in the most commented list.?
that is a horrible message to send to all the new authors on the site.
I would ask that you consider the following:
1. you make the most commented list often with your photographic posts now.
2. why not wait, edit the posts you have that are low comments (less than 10)
i did a test with several authors, there are authors on the site that have 100 or more posts with more than 90 comments.
that would 3 edits a day, and nobody on the list for a long time. That will discourage a number of new authors.
Seeing myself as an example of what’s wrong with virily or as a person who edits their post to hurt other users leaves a certain bad taste in my mouth too. I still stand by my actions, and this particular post featured here is a seasonal post. I did not want to wait for a whole year to edit it (if virily ever fixes the false positive issue), and I conveniently specified it’s an edited post in the titles for those who don’t want to watch edited posts. I understand your point, but you should understand ours too. We did not make a typo or a mistake, we fixed posts that were messed up NOT by our fault.
i gave an example yesterday of the impact I am talking about by adding a line to this post and reposting.
do you see the impact?
Thanks for the observations Doc. I figured as much, but I suppose it is what is. If the option is there, it will be used by many. I just hope the views pick up soon.
i noticed two of your posts had the old view levels but, 4 or 5 didn’t. Let;’s hope things stabilize!
I certainly hope so, and soon.
i am going to send it to them again.