DocAndersen
In listening to the recording of the two political addresses made last night/ I won’t share my opinion of the veracity of either side. Let me just say that the Department of Homeland Security publishes the data both sides used. The site is here https://www.dhs.gov/immigration-statistics. I highly recommend that you not turn on CNN, Fox News or any other news organization, nor listen to either side speaking last night until you go and look at the facts first. My father always taught me to understand both sides. It makes conversation much easier if you know where both are.
An interesting personal fact from last night, both sides were incredibly negative. I cannot tell you how much that makes me stop listening. If you only have something negative to say, then consider why you are speaking. There are always positive things to be found even if you have to look for them. If you can’t be bothered to find something positive to say alongside the negative things, then I can’t be bothered to listen. It seems such a simple rule but so many people trip over that particular problem.
Following up on my negativity post, I did want to point out that there are times when you have to present negative information. I can tell you, as a former educator that how you present negative information is more important than how you present positive information. There is never a situation that isn’t legal, that has only negative information. In legal situations, it can be the case that there is no positive to be shared. But when it comes to the world around us, there is always something nice to be said. There is another side of course, as a long time software professional I will tell you this. It is something that can be argued. It is something that I have seen, done and have documented for more than 30 years. If you only present negative information to me related to my software product, I ignore what you are saying. You can scream from the mountaintop, but I don’t care. You see, you didn’t remember that even IT developers are humans. Everyone is a person and if you present only negative information about me or to me, and we are not in a court of law, shame on you.
I will pledge to the Virily community. If you go back and look at your posts, and your discussions of Virily are they negative only? If you have made the point to bring up things you like (for example I love polls, gallery mode and I love quizzes well other than Norman’s Quizzes because I just can’t ever seem to get all of his rights)! Load times and site stability have improved throughout the last eight months. We had Cloudflare issues that were a huge problem for many non-European users. Those issues are gone now, and the site is more stable. I wish the admins communicated more, but I do, based on all the negative posts by many writer sons the site understand why they don’t.
My grandfather used to say “if you leave your house every day at 9 am, and your neighbors yell at you, every day what do you do?” The easy thing is to leave at 8:55 and hope your neighbor isn’t watching. The hard thing is to walk over and say why you are mad? Let’s open the positive side of the site communication so that the Verily team feels safe asking us why we are concerned.
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I agree about your principle of keeping objectivity in any situation – – – finding the good in every bad without overlooking the bad. I am, in few occasions, guilty of this flaw you are talking about especially when I am in the middle of things and too blind to see that my complaining will not solve anything. As always, I admire your sense of loyalty – the same trait you demonstrated in Niume. Goodluck Doc ?
Thanks oh great pixie! Your kindness is always welcomed!!!!!
Very interesting post! At least online, I try to focus only on the positive topics. I like the idea behind Virily, but I also understand why some people are feeling discouraged because of the problems it has. However, we can always choose not to lose our time with things that make us unhappy.
It is true, I understand frustration I feel it too, I just know people don’t like to be told their baby is ugly and not follow that up with but its the smartest baby I’ve ever met!
You can either look at it as the squeaky wheel get’s greased, or if your mamma ever taught you that if you have nothing nice to say, don’t say anything.
I try a happy medium. 😉 I do squeak sometimes though. I do know the admins know what’s going on, the dashboard is a glitch they know about. They should put that banner thingy up again with a short note though. I do understand the frustration, I have been there more times than I can count. The admins are human, they work for Virily, they are not Virily. I see both sides.
Actually, I am more in the middle as well. I worry tath the admins don’t talk to us at all now, whereas before they would, on occasion. One of the reasons you stay in your foxhole is that when you peek out, someone shoots at you!
It is the wise person that always considers both sides of the problem.
I like people from the virily community. Some of them are known, albeit in part, by other sats. There has been almost negativism all over the world. And that’s why I like it here, people share only beautiful posts.
There are many wonderful posts (yours always) on Virily. Always fun to see different parts of the world!
I do my best to bring good news stories on this site since a positive story makes me as well as my readers happy.
Understood, I’ve read quite a few of your posts they are often very fun, and uplifting.
I do my best to blog the positives in this site.
Positive energy is important now. Too many people hide behind their anonymous keyboard screaming about the negative world.
You are correct since we need more good stories not all of talk shows griping over issues we cannot control.
The formula for success my grandfather taught me was two parts positive for every negative part. If you want to do more, always go more positive!
You are correct on this matter. Thanks for your reply.
Thanks. It is a hard-won formula to follow.
I agree with what you are saying in general, but in this case I think Virily needs to feel the heat. Five weeks of a broken dashboard and not even an apology? Unacceptable
Well, Alex, you are a writer I respect a lot, so I respectfully disagree. The yelling at the admin team started more than a year ago. Several writers exploded their daily viril production by posting highly negative posts.
Has it done anything? Nope. In fact, it has driven the admins even further away from us. In fact, they don’t communicate now, because there is nothing but negative.
No one likes only bad news. Everyone likes the occasional pat on the back. While I wish the team from Virily would communicate more, I completely understand why they are dug in and not talking.
Sorry, but I disagree. We need to communicate openly and fairly. We need to tell the Virily team what is working as well as what isn’t working.
Fair enough. I’ve tried to give the admins the benefit of the doubt but there is no point in doing the dishes when your house is on fire…
If we apply your analogy to Virily, then I agree. But I don’t think the house is on fire. They are trying to fix two problems, I suspect the first problem (getting credit for all guest views shared) is causing the second problem right now.
I don’t think people understand the complexity of getting and giving credit for guest views. I share a post via twitter, and forever after that whoever reads that tweet and clicks the link, should generate a Viril for me. That requires a data structure of the outbound tweet and all associated user responses to that.
Not a house on fire, someone just burned the eggs for breakfast.
The base issue (broken dashboard) isn’t what I meant by the house on fire, it is the user outrage about it being broken for so long and the lack of communication. But hopefully my metaphor was overly dramatic
On the good side, Virily has already paid longer than Niume did.
On the good side, the site is operating much better now than it was.
Back in the day when I worked for a company my boss used to say “One aw crap wipes out a bunch of attaboys.” He didn’t say crap by the by. But, he would always point out, you still have to count the Attaboys!
Are they improving? Absolutely. Are they still better than the alternatives? Probably. Is it fair to backseat drive them? Probably not…
And I do sympathize with the admins because there are some whiny users around here, but this the dashboard failure is a very serious issue and it needs to be addressed, users are losing confidence in the site. Without user created content, there will not be a site, no matter how fast it runs
First I agree that the dashboard issue is serious. I suspect, the admins have gone dark because of the users you called “whiny.” If I was on the admin team I would actually block a large number of users on Facebook.
I don’t honestly at this point care what a lot of people say is bad about the site now. They jump to conclusions they don’t verify and they all they do is complain. When I was a school teacher we used to call those Lounge Tyrants. Those were the teachers that you didn’t want to ask about a student (he is, she is the worst… was the only answer they had).
Personally if I complained as much as some of them do, I would be gone already.
I seriously hope the admins aren’t childish enough to go off pouting because of a few whiners. They’ve never been communicative even in the best of times…
A few whines. Ok, so from the perspective of the admins, in the Virily Users group take out my posts and count the negative posts. Read the depth of the me to comments.
Come back to Virily. Look at all the negative posts about the site. Now, go back tow hen they admins (who used to communicate on the Virily Users group facebook page) until the last blast o negative started 8 months ago.
It is not a few whines. It has been an outright nasty fest for almost a year now. If I were the admins, I would freaking cut access to all the negative only posters and send them packing. Good thing I am not an admin.
Consider that much of this outrage might be due to the fact that things go wrong and nothing is ever said about it. Damage control is a cost of doing business, but the admins never try to set our expectations or even explain the nature of the issue
Do they owe us an explanation? Not at all, but their failure to control the narrative has resulted in this mess. There are ways to handle problems, and silence isn’t recommended…
I agree in this scenario that we have reached the point of diminishing returns as far as communication.
I am simply reminding everyone of the clinical definition of insanity, doing the same things over and over (but expecting a different result each time).
There is not a single person that whines on this site, that hasn’t gotten paid by the site. In fact, they tend to be the first ones with the Look at me I got paid posts every time.
If you want new results, you have to do new things.
Generally I take the three little birds approach to problems, but we’re rapidly approaching the two month mark and I still have no idea why the dashboard is broken or how long it will stay that way
That having been said, what can I do about it? Back to three birds…
My grandfather used to tell me the story of the three birds.
There are three birds on your shoulder.
The first one says “blame, blame, blame”
The second one says “is there another way”
The third one says “the more you listen the more things aren’t as bad as they seem.”
now, you have to make two birds fly away.
The problem is, for some people the rational birds never return.
My birds just say “Every little thing is gonna be alright now” but I will keep the another way bird around, just in case…
in fairness, the other way around bird is often the one I listen to 🙂
with your background, it would surprise me if you didn’t…
I always remain positive online and offer my actual opinions in the comments. I have discovered that the only posts to which you can add one-word comments are poems. This is because you are expressing what the poem felt like to you so you can write beautiful, awesome and so on. However, if you would respond this way to an article it would leave the writer frustrated and wonderful what you were referring to. Now if I have ever been faced with an article that after I read it I could not think of what to comment I still write enough to let that person know that I came away with a feeling of dissatisfaction perhaps saying I read this but I am not sure what to say or I didn’t understand what you meant. I think positivity and politeness should go hand in hand when we are replying.
I agree with most of what you said, but I love poetry so when I read a poem that touches me I tend to respond with a book not a word! Still, I agree, the intent has to be to connect with the writer that connected with you!
It seems that you have read a lot of negative news and unfair about Virily from various sources.
positive as well, just not posted by the folks that are negative. Trying to remind people to present both sides!
I know that basically that is what you always strive for.
I would say, that it one of your goals as well. I always feel like you present both sides!
I think basically everyone or parties wants to be understood, supported, and get their rights, so we just need to try to understand and respond appropriately while trying to show various points of view, possibilities, and calm the situation.
very true, my gut is because it is the internet people forget there is another human reading that post…
I really understand your point, Doc.
I don’t think there is ever more we can ask for than the person we are speaking with saying “I understand.” Thanks, Albert!
I am still New on Virily. I don’t know much about virily but maybe its going to be a good experience.
Welcome we are glad you are here! It is a great community!
I’ve said quite many times how I think Virily is doing well and I like the people here but then I don’t ignore the problems, though I don’t keep talking about it unless someone brought it up.
I think it’s also one-sided if we just say the good things and avoid discussing any problems. With the admins hardly ever answering questions, some would think maybe only when enough people are concern about the issue then they’ll try to do anything.
But, of course, everyone thinks differently. Some people dislike people who voice out, thinking they’re troublemakers, others can see them as trying to help improve the system. Either way its not wrong, just how you what to view the issue.
I agree. I post things I do not like often. I just also let them know when they are fixed and post positive as well.
I am bored with the constant Virily is bad posts.
i just wonder who is mad? i don’t read negative articles about Virily?
There are lots of forums with negative posts. There used to be a lot of them but most of those writers have moved on. But there are still a few.
ahh not here in virily … you can’t blame them if they had experienced badly here.
I don’t blame anyone. I simply point out that if you only speak negatively to someone, they will stop listening.
so what’s the win-win solution here. if they won’t speak up then how would the admins know that this is a problem to the members?
As stated in my article the win-win is very easy here. Remember the human. If you stand in a room every day and your boss yells at you, every night you send your resume around for a new job.
If, your boss brings you in and tells you when you do a good job. Then brings you in two days later to say, you made a mistake you love that boss.
It is freaking easy. Remember if there are positives (and there are) share those. There are so many people on the site that blame the admins. It isn’t always there fault.
ahhh okay… or better keep quiet by not complaining instead of saying negative views. will that be ok, too?
You have the right to say negative things if they bother you. Just make sure you take into account the human receiving!
Negative feedback coming because of very slow update on money earnings. Points don’t show real value of work.
All well and good, but the other side is the site is more stable. The posting process has been cleaned up.
Remember the human!!!
They should update values little more often and everything would be fine.
I completely agree with you. There are many things that work well, and things that don’t – communication doesn’t work well, but so many other things do!