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All authors are critical but the question is, how long before an author is verified?

There was a great discussion (well several great reviews but one in particular) in the comments of my post yesterday. Not that I created an excellent concept, because I didn’t. The conversation started in the first post between Holcombe and The Dunce, and Introvert carried it forward and modified it a bit the issue of post moderation. First of all, we have several authors that have left the site to date because it takes too long to move posts forward. The conversation is ultimately about verified users. For a long time on this site, there was a disagreement about the reality of “verified” versus unverified users. The first thing to consider is that verified users do not have their posts moderated.

But that is the only difference. All authors on this site are critical. We are content-driven because we are a writing site. But community (all of the authors) is an essential addition as well. Writing can be lonely in the sense that we sit in our space and create the things we choose to share. The community is the commenting, replying, and sharing of the posts of others (and our own). When we consider that there are some other things that we, as a group of authors, have to continue. The first thing is that the site is paid on views.  So when you share an article and you see 30, 40, or more pictures likely you have 10-20 views you get paid for (other authors on the site), the rest are external views.I see between 50 and more percent of views are external. The question that Introvert raised was, can we speed up the rate by which authors can become verified. The first group of verified users received that around three years ago. It took between 8 months to 12 months for those authors to be made verified. Remember, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN verified and non-verified users is the ability to self-publish. The second group of verified users happened about two years after the first. The third group was a fix for a significant site publication bug and was about a year ago. Most of the authors had been with the site between 6 months and a year at that point.

The question is, can we get a defined length of time and goals/rules/expectations for what a verified user is going forward.

Link to previous posts

https://virily.com/virily_poll/making-writing-sites-better-faster-post-moderation/

https://virily.com/virily_poll/the-time-to-fight-for-change-is-now/

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  • Question of

    Should a verified author that has a post removed from the site by the admin team lose their verified status?

    • Yes
  • Question of

    Do you think writers should wait 6 months to become verified?

    • Yes
  • Question of

    Or should be it 6 months and at least 30 posts?

    • Yes
  • Question of

    Or 9 months?

    • Yes
  • Question of

    Or 9 months and 40 posts?

    • Yes
  • Question of

    Remember refresh and the poll answers will appear!

    • Yes
  • Question of

    and away we go!

    • Yes
    • No

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  1. Q: SHOULD A VERIFIED AUTHOR THAT HAS A POST REMOVED FROM THE SITE BY THE ADMIN TEAM LOSE THEIR VERIFIED STATUS?
    Yes (5 votes) – 100%
    Q: DO YOU THINK WRITERS SHOULD WAIT 6 MONTHS TO BECOME VERIFIED?
    Yes (3 votes) – 100%
    Q: OR SHOULD BE IT 6 MONTHS AND AT LEAST 30 POSTS?
    Yes (3 votes) – 100%
    Q: REMEMBER REFRESH AND THE POLL ANSWERS WILL APPEAR!
    Yes (1 votes) – 100%
    Q: AND AWAY WE GO!
    Yes (4 votes) – 80%
    No (1 votes) – 20%

  2. Hi, Doc, you already have my answer about these issues. However, could you kindly explain another burning, I.T. related question to me and possibly many others from the community? A writer By the name of Menazoran frequently occupies multiple trending spots, i.e. today he holds positions 1 through 9 but that’s probably due to excellent SEO skills, not my problem, I’m just curious how come all 9 posts were written 2 years ago. Could you possibly, to the best of your ability, explain how it is frequently done by him? This is not a subjective question, I’m genuinely curious?

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  3. My view is perhaps different.

    I would say that all authors should be verified from day one of their writing. Let us trust authors to do the right thing until proven otherwise.

    The “moderators” should just check and advise, afterwards, not before.

    Mylot works well like this. The members also help to bring “people of other intents” to task.

    Moderation, and ivory tower thinktankers, are always a bugbear to me.

    Most of them are not writers, but mere “adminners” working annoyingly “unflexibly.”

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    • if, and only if the admins here were as engaged as those on Mylot, then it would work. But, we have to work with what we have. We cannot take the empty hand, and in the opening, it reveals a pot of gold.

      Based on the lack of direct engagement, we have to be very careful.

      It takes the admins of this site a long time to react and respond.

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        • There is a parable that fits here. It is too long for a comment but it is the story of the man who only the color red no other colors.

          I am afraid the admin team here, has that issue. They only see red. Leaves all the enhanced colors missing from the palette and of course, the reality of what is there isn’t seen until it is too late.

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  4. As you know, I waited about 3 years to become a verified member. My opinion is that they could become verified members in at least 6 months. I think we should first refresh the page with exact work instructions and other conditions.

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  5. Three (3) months and 30 posts should be more than enough to assess someone on. The criteria for becoming verified should be that the user keeps to the rules of the site. Nothing else. They do not need to be a brilliant writer (who is going to be the judge of that anyway?), but need to be able to make grammatical sentences.
    I also believe everyone should get one warning before losing their verified status. It’s easy to slip or be careless one time, but a warning should concentrate the mind.

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  6. That question and others should all be transparent to site users. That is a big flaw here. I would say 80% of the users here are good and make up for 98% of the content here. So yes, there should be perks for those users.

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      • Even a step program would be good if the “good” writers were grandfathered in. It would encourage writers to keep writing to get to the next level and boost in pay. I know the boost in pay is a joke, but that would be a good way to handle payments.

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          • That is sort of how the old platform at Epinions.com was handled. Basically though, the more you did, the more you made. But they had Top Reviewers and Advisors in each category. These people were the ones that wrote the best reviews and also took their time to welcome newbies and give good advice to new people. The more hats you had, the more you made there. Those with hats were expected to read as much in their category every month and rate the reviews. Don’t rate and you lose your hat.

  7. Oh my, well there you have a whole kettle of fish. I think everyone makes mistakes and there should be ways to help each other become better rather than punishing them for trying.

    I can’t get the refresh thing to work. Exactly when am I suppose to refresh.

    Mean people who intentionally bully should have to leave quickly and if they don’t learn the first time they should leave permanently in my opinion. Having a misunderstanding is one thing, but going after people with ill intent is quite different.

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  8. It’s hard for me. I’m wasting valuable time. I always have to rework my photos. Discussion requirements also make it difficult for me. I harass the site, but I can’t spend much time being permanent.Why are the answers to all questions except the last one only “YES”?

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