I was speaking with a long time co-worker from a few years ago. We usually catch up once or twice a year. She was interested in a couple of the security posts I had shared and reached out to me with the information I am sharing today. She has long been an IT professional, and I respect her opinion on many topics. I don’t agree with her statement, but I do understand her point.
“facial recognition software is a complete violation of my civil rights.”
First off, I do not agree with the statement, but I do understand the logic behind the statement. If a camera captures you, you are in the realm that lies between legal and privacy. The owner of a business, house, or building has the right to capture images of any person that comes within the distance of the sidewalk and the parking areas of their structure, home, and or business. They do also in the US, provide that information to the police with the proper documentation (usually a subpoena or warrant). Now, the tricky questions come. First, the owner cannot sell the images. It happens, but that is not legal in the sense that the owner of the tape cannot convey permission. In other words, in the US, a warrant or subpoena is required. Only then, with the legal document, can that video footage be turned over.
The other side of that is the reality of facial recognition. Many law enforcement agencies use that for known security risks. Many governments use facial recognition when public officials are speaking with citizens to protect that official. But, as my friend stated, many people believe that initial identification of the person’s face violates your rights.
It is an interesting problem – that image of you. Unlike your fingerprint, the image of you cannot be as quickly captured and reused. Someone can carefully lift your fingerprints, and using a quick-dry rubber company; they can recreate your prints. Your face is a little harder to replicate that way. It can be done, but that isn’t my friend’s issue. It is the connection of your picture to your identity. Her point is more that without consent, no one should run facial recognition.
It is a provocative statement. My argument would be that it isn’t violating my privacy to use facial recognition on my image. But, I will open it up to the community. What do you think?
I continue my side project of picking authors and sharing their old posts on social media. My only rule is you have to comment on my posts, and I will add your name to the list and read your old posts!
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Is facial recognition a huge deal to you?
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Yes
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Do you use facial recognition to log into your phone or tablet?
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Yes
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No
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Let’s have a great day ok!
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Yes
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No
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I hope I never have to recognize anyone.
it is a difficult choice thanks for the thoughts!
France does not really care about civil rights because the Yellow Vests protests have been going on for a year now.
i worry about that – you can use facial rec to see people sometimes you just gave an example where abuse can occur.
Q: IS FACIAL RECOGNITION A HUGE DEAL TO YOU?
Yes (3 votes) – 100%
Q: DO YOU USE FACIAL RECOGNITION TO LOG INTO YOUR PHONE OR TABLET?
Yes (2 votes) – 25%
No (6 votes) – 75%
Q: LET’S HAVE A GREAT DAY OK!
Yes (5 votes) – 83%
No (1 votes) – 17%
I have never had to use facial recognition
it is slowly but surely making it into more and more devices. What about facial recognition on a public camera?
Nope but with my fight against Paynoeer now continuing and having to scan my passport I wish there had been some facial recognition of me possible to finally get them to release the money I earned with my writing from Textbroker and has been sitting with them for over 2 weeks now
if yours was the only bad story I had heard about Payoneer i would say, well it happens. But this is one of many. sorry you got impacted.
I have this option on my smartphone but I haven’t decided on it yet. I don’t know why, but I have a little “fear”.
i think your little fear is justified. A lot of us have a little fear about this.
I had a phone that had a fingerprint, and I would have downloaded a face recognition app but I no longer use them. I have a phone that doesn’t have a fingerprint or facial recognition feature. They are good security options but I prefer the password, pin or pattern.
i can understand that. sadly the reality of facial recognization has nothing to do with our phones.
You are right. I see atume when it will be paramount for every person to be implanted by a chip to use for daily tasks including eye recognition.
many have predicted such a future. It is both warm, inviting and bleak.
I would warm up to it if used properly for the benefit of all of us. But as cruel as humans turn out to be, the future appears bleak.
i would hope there is still hope.
i am torn by this issue, i don’t really have a position right now.
I use facial recognition on my phone and am ok with that. But I don’t care for it everywhere I go.
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i suspect the ship has sailed on the second issue, It appears to be more and more available for law enforcement
And it is very helpful with law enforcement.
it drives law enforcement too much faster resolution of many crimes.
I do not even know that such a device exists, dear friend
sadly it does, i am not sure where I stand on it yet.
This is really something completely new to me …. good to have you to find out
it is an interesting problem overall. I worry about the impact both ways. Facial Recognition can protect people with restraining orders. It can help law enforcement catch criminals. But it does intrude a bit on us. It can also be misused!
What kind of people are going to quickly start abusing this device
sadly the list of people that will misuse the technology can be simply stated as virtually every government today.
I do not want to use facial recognition and I hope I will never use it in my entire life. I know it will be difficult but I will try it.
too late on that pal, too late. The question is will it happen. The question is what can we do.
I do not want to use facial recognition. I will fight to defend my right to not have facial recognition. Perhaps I am old fashioned. but I believe I can win the battle.
are you referring to yourself and facial recognition or the broader world? I think you can do that for yourself, but outside of you, probably not.
Thanks, I will win the battle. I think in China when one camera sees a Chinese citizen the camera reproduces a number and the authorities know everything about this person with this number. I studied a little bit of Chinese but perhaps I should not travel to China…
it isn’t just china. It is happening everywhere. Look for cameras next time you are out.
The intent behind the technology is fine.. but this is what worries me
“It happens, but that is not legal ”
We had an instance in one area under surveillance cameras in our neighborhood, the guys in charge of this were recording a girl and her boyfriend engaging in some public show of affection and using it to threaten her to gain sexual favors.
This bothers me .. there are people who do unethical things where is the law to protect us?
Politicians and other corrupt [people could use tampered frames to get their enemies into legal jams with the help of corrupt law enforcement officials. Once you are get convicted its hard to get out and prove yourself innocent.
We need to have clear laws, universal laws before we plunge into such things
it is too late on the plunge in. GDPR (from the EU) is a really good start.
I see both of this, there is a lot of good and a lot of bad.
Americans are very particular with the rights.. we Asians it is not that we don’t care about our rights but we care more on our security.
ah, my friends that asked this question isn’t an American. She is from France.