DocAndersen
More modified poll questions based on yesterday trying to pinpoint what is wrong with comments and views. One of the things that don’t seem to be making it from my post to other people is that being on the Most Commented and Trending lists drives more views for the author’s post. So when you see an edited post that is suddenly on that list, think about this, that post isn’t going to get as much fain from being there as a new post will. And honestly, it is prevening a new post form being on the list and getting that bump. It is a delta of 20% to 40% in terms of the impact. For every post that is edited and jumps right on the most commented and trending lists, you cost other authors.
The example was tested this morning. A post was edited at my request (thank you!!!!), and that post was specifically not one with a large number of comments. It didn’t jump on the most commented list and so far, hasn’t gotten more traction the second time.. So let’s be honest, there is a significant value for being on the Trending, and the Most Commented lists. I will publish numbers tomorrow but the initial testing shows there is an impact. I am happy to provide numbers to anyone that speculates about this.
There were some very interesting takes on the lack of comments and views. I want to be clear, an author asked me a week ago or so, the difference between holiday views and comments, and normal views and comments. I would share some numbers that show where we are today.
- Holidays 2018 to Holidays 2019 one to one comparison (mini movers project last year and just starting this year) views are down 30%
- It is the removed guest views credit that is causing the problem (they have been gone since April) April to November, and views were up overall
- The negativity on the site over the last month has driven comments down (I don’t have data on this hard to test)
- The new comment limits have driven comments down.
- The quality of posts has driven comments down
- The restrictions on users have decreased comments and views.
I don’t have data for the last three but they very interesting questions. I am really curious overall as I have no way to track any of the last 3.
Current known Restrictions:
- No more than 25 comments per day
- Comments must be 20 characters or longer
- Posts appear to be limited to no more than 6 (or 8 I’ve eight also) per day.
The good news is the site is getting stable after last weekend’s blow up!
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I think virils are down because of the negativity on the site now?
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Yes
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No
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I think virils are down because we don’t get credit for guest views anymore?
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Yes
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No
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I think comments are down because post quality is down?
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Yes
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No
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The only way to make the most commented list is to submit an old (edited post) or write about what is wrong with Virily
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Yes
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I had no idea we do not get virils for guest views anymore.
Guest views (I share a post and everyone that clicks my link gives me a viril) were taken away about two years ago.
We then were given one Viril per share (read someone’s post, click the facebook button, you would get one Viril for that) that was stopped in April.
Umm – Can we have some research and celebrate what’s right with Virily now? I am kind of ready and looking for that.
I am done with the negative posts about what is wrong! what is right will take a couple of weeks! I am still gathering information!
Q: I THINK VIRILS ARE DOWN BECAUSE OF THE NEGATIVITY ON THE SITE NOW?
Yes (7 votes) – 78%
No (2 votes) – 22%
Q: I THINK VIRILS ARE DOWN BECAUSE WE DON’T GET CREDIT FOR GUEST VIEWS ANYMORE?
Yes (6 votes) – 67%
No (3 votes) – 33%
Q: I THINK COMMENTS ARE DOWN BECAUSE POST QUALITY IS DOWN?
Yes (6 votes) – 60%
No (4 votes) – 40%
Q: THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE THE MOST COMMENTED LIST IS TO SUBMIT AN OLD (EDITED POST) OR WRITE ABOUT WHAT IS WRONG WITH VIRILY
Yes (4 votes) – 40%
No (6 votes) – 60%
here is the first survey to compare the numbers
Q: I THINK VIRILS ARE DOWN BECAUSE OF THE NEGATIVITY ON THE SITE NOW?
Yes (7 votes) – 78%
No (2 votes) – 22%
Q: I THINK VIRILS ARE DOWN BECAUSE WE DON’T GET CREDIT FOR GUEST VIEWS ANYMORE?
Yes (6 votes) – 67%
No (3 votes) – 33%
Q: I THINK COMMENTS ARE DOWN BECAUSE POST QUALITY IS DOWN?
Yes (6 votes) – 60%
No (4 votes) – 40%
Q: THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE THE MOST COMMENTED LIST IS TO SUBMIT AN OLD (EDITED POST) OR WRITE ABOUT WHAT IS WRONG WITH VIRILY
Yes (4 votes) – 40%
No (6 votes) – 60%
sorry can’t edit comments and I posted the same thing twice. Here is the first survey
Q: I PROMISE I AM NOT ANTI-EDITED POSTS, OK?
Yes (12 votes) – 92%
No (1 votes) – 8%
Q: PROMISE YOU WILL NOT JUSTIFY EDITING POSTS IN THE COMMENTS, OK?
Yes (9 votes) – 82%
No (2 votes) – 18%
Q: I CHECK THE MOST COMMENTED LIST OF POSTS EVERY DAY?
Yes (7 votes) – 47%
No (8 votes) – 53%
Q: I CHECK THE TRENDING LIST OF POSTS EVERY DAY>?
Yes (6 votes) – 40%
No (9 votes) – 60%
Q: I KNOW WHY COMMENTS ARE DOWN FROM LAST YEAR? (SHARE IN THE COMMENTS PLEASE)
Yes (4 votes) – 25%
No (12 votes) – 75%
Q: I HAVE NO CLUE WHY COMMENTS ARE DOWN
Yes (11 votes) – 79%
No (3 votes) – 21%
Q: I HAVE NO CLUE WHY VIEWS ARE DOWN.
Yes (13 votes) – 93%
No (1 votes) – 7%
You can try …. I will never understand this … all I see is that there are fewer and fewer active members … which are slowly disappearing …. they are probably getting tired of these viriliy confusions that never end. … always something new … P. S. as for the payment for September of the promise itself and none of the actions …. but tomorrow, but in 2 days, and at the end of the month …. the money from nowhere …. the promises themselves and the straining …. if that’s how we do it, we’ll all say goodbye
We shall see if they are honoring the action they promised! i worry about that.
What can I say to you other than thank you very much, dear friend
thank you as well. I am striving for a more positive environment on Virily!!!!!
I have to tell you the good news that I also got paid for September …. again thank you very much for everything you did for me, dear friend
they promised me they would fix that issue! I am so happy they did!!!!
remember when the big problems were dashboard not updating and why aren’t the admins talking?
Those were the good times, lol.
i hope you do – it is literally yesterday!!! 🙂
yeah, nobody even mentions the dashboard anymore. we have bigger problems
it is the sad reality.
There are things being fixes and we should spend some time talking about that!
you mean yesterday at 2 pm? those are still two of the top community issues. It is funny we submitted a list of 10 things we wanted in July. They gave us 7.
communication (still not better)
dashboard updating (nope)
edit comments (nope)
I believe that we can raise the viewer ship by sharing our writings on sites that pertain to our writings which will bring others to the site. Google used to be amazing with having groups to share things in, but Reddit seems kind of sketchy at times being that they can easily flag writings. Facebook seems like the only win win with gaining views
that is very true – good insight!!!!
My edited post went to the top earlier but no new comments.
Traffic is way down and I hope it changes soon.
i saw that, there was another edited post (four in fact) that were done to test the theory. So far the theory holds course.
Thanks!!!!!
I would imagine that its down because of he post quality. I feel that that was a reason why a old site I wrote on shut down because the quality wasn’t good. At the end of the day I’am sure they want to attract viewers to the site, not run them away.
i don’t know pal.
I could very quickly if I had access to the server logs to answer some of my questions. But that isn’t going to happen!
I mentioned earlier that I could in no way raise views and comments on my posts. I also noticed that in the most viewed and commented, the same members appear. I don’t even think why. I try to publish interesting and content different posts.
you have made the most commented list a few times. It does tend to be the same authors. I do worry about that frequently.
i wish I knew how to fix the views issue.
I can tell you from experience that once you are away from virily, and see lots of posts about the current problems when you get back, you easily get discouraged to continue using the site. It has happened to me this summer.
we actually went through and they made many of the changes we asked for. I am actually feeling more positive that the do listen!
Me too, but if someone has been away they can easily misunderstand the situation. I think some members still misinterpret it, or just put more importance on other issues that haven’t been fixed yet.
Reading all these stuff lowers the reader’s energy too ?. I remember the time when Virily seems bustling ??♀️
I am trying to bring that back! so far not a lot of traction but I am still trying!
i suspect that is an issue. last post (I do three to get quality data in the polls) today with a new poll!
i think the issue right that is really the most painful is lack of communication. The admin team doesn’t.
But beyond that, the negativity is something I don’t like. There are positive ways to move forward!
To credit you (and maybe others too), I noticed that commenters these days are more engaging and they do repeat commenting. The downside is the fact that most faces I see there are mostly the same people too ??♀️
That’s true, the lack of communication is the biggest problem. We think we know what’s good for the site and take things in our hands, but in fact we don’t know what’s the admins’ idea.
i think to a degree we are kept in the dark. They do on occasion tell us things. I have gotten 3 emails from the admins in December.
We were able to get 7 of our 10 primary asks as a community from July. I believe we can get more things, by simply sharing what the community thinks in a positive way!!!!!
It’s great that they talk to you and listen to our ideas, but I think we need a moderator who is not a content creator. I have been very understanding about them not talking, but now that users are acting as the virily police and even insulting each other, it’s time that admins show some position. We need clear tearms and rules. If they just want cheap content to put ads on, which I hope is not the case, they should state it so people don’t lose their time fighting for something that doesn’t even matter.
just to be clear, july’s changes weren’t my idea. They were the community (two of the polls had more than 30 different voters)!
Overall though, I do agree. I have proposed something similar tot he admin teams many times.
The reality of where we are right now is due to the reality of lack of communication, people not respecting other authors and several other smaller impacts!
Yes, I said our ideas. I am not sure what July changes were, I think I was away from the site.
Personally, I am very happy that we are able to edit our own posts instead of waiting for days for an admin to take a look at them, and it’s sad that it created such a big problem eventually.
Hopefully, 2020 will be better for all of us and the site. 🙂
we sent a list of 10 community asks in July.
1. edit posts
2. edit comments
3. block users
4. report posts
5. update dashboard more frequently
i don’t remember the others. they actually listened and did most of what we asked for (it was a community effort!)
yes Virily is still alive and still paying – that is a really good thing! 2020 will be better!
I don’t understand why this is so important which post is the most commented …. I don’t open or comment on old and reposted posts … why would I comment again if I commented two years ago
ah you have gotten to the heart of the problem!
being on that list (most commented) increases new posts by 40 or more views and comments.
edited posts that appear on the most commented gain 20 virils and comments.
But, if the edited is there, someone else can’t be on the list!!!! therefor one author is losing 40 virils because they were not on the list.
Your first advent post was at the top of the most commented list. You gained a lot of comments vaiews onc eyou made that list!