Andre Hartslief
This was probably promoted by James Clavel’s 1975 novel “Shogun”, about deeprooted Japanese beliefs and ancient customs in that they maintain, that there are three clear sides of nature in a human “It’s a saying they have, that a man has a false heart in his mouth for the world to see, another in his breast to show to his special friends and his family, and the real one, the true one, the secret one, which is never shown to anyone except to himself alone, hidden only God knows where.”
You could unravel their real nature like this:
1. See how they treat people around them. Relatives, friends, waitress. Observe them closely.
2. Argue with them. Seriously, start an argument out of something and see how they respond to it. Are they remaining calm? Losing it? Observe their anger. Is it volatile or temperamental?
3. Observe their discussions about their spouse/ partner or best friend. Too domineering or blissful?
4. Just say no! Randomly refuse to help them out whenever they ask a favor from you. Don’t give a yes every time. Are they able to handle no for an answer?
5. Try pulling away from them. See how they react. This requires you to be passive-aggressive. Do not overdo it. Are they mirroring your actions and pulling back or acting casually?
6. Ask their opinions, about a person they dislike and the reason why. There’s the juicy part. Do not ask them about someone they like. Rather, tell them to describe their ex. Do they badmouth them or still respect their ex(s)?
7. Does your dog hate them? Often times, animals and babies pick up someone’s intentions faster. Weird, but it makes sense. Pretty much covered. Good luck with executing it.
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i am curious what you think a fake is, I see your system for finding them but what do you consider a fake?
Hello Doc, you are way more intelligent than to expect me to enter into the dissection of a final year Psych. theses in the restrictive confines of this page. While I make clear reference to the source of my content, (James Clavel-Shogun-Novel.) I repeat, I took an alleged, (yet to be tested by me), analysis by the author, of a novel, Shogun, James Clavel, and shared his greatly condensed findings here on this page for its “anecdotal value” only. I am merely the messenger, what my views are, are irrelevant. As are your views, mainly speculative when you impart your anticipated purchase of certain electronic devices of late, that are as yet not tested prior to actual purchase. What can reasonably be expected from your report, prior to purchase and testing, is for the most part based greatly on the seller’s advertised merits of such electronic devices. It would be ludicrous for the inquirer to expect anything more than anecdotal, ie. hearsay information from you, at that early point, not so?
the analysis and the revelation yes, would be very hard to drive towards.
my curiosity was more focused on what you find disingenuous perhaps?
It’s disingenuous when people pretend to know less about something than they really do.
i do agree with that, it is perhaps part of human nature…
Animals certainly have a better sense of how good or bad people are. I love animals so I have even found friendship with a guard dog. I have never had dogs myself because I have always been a cat person. Cat too know how to tell between good and bad. Whenever someone visited if the cat stayed around then all was good but if the cat went away or even hid then you had to wonder about what kind of person you were dealing with
From the onset, I was more than slightly amused by the discussion around the discussion about a possible multiplicity, ie that the Japanese maintain, that there are three clear sides of nature in a human “It’s a saying they have, that a man has a false heart in his mouth for the world to see, another in his breast to show to his special friends and his family, and the real one, the true one, the secret one, which is never shown to anyone except to himself alone, hidden only God knows where.” And that by asking certain questions, similar to the sensitive ones asked above, one can get pretty close to the “real” person, once their guard is down. It was shared here for its, tongue-in-cheek, thought-provoking qualities.
People”s dogs usually like me but I rarely use sociopathies against people consciously. People are seen regardless, I think. Yup, I could be so wrong maybe.
Hello Howard, I don’t believe there is a wrong or right aspect of this. The answers are at best based on perceptions, which we all know are subject to qualified scrutiny, I’m merely sharing an amusing study came across which is likely flawed at best. Thank you for reading and commenting.
Yes, it is interesting.
I thought when I read this that ‘the real one, the true one, the secret one’ may partially remain secret because I am not sure people have language for this truth to express it well, if at all, with words.
Now, that analogy I can truly agree with Howard. Thanks for sharing it here.
Animals can definitely get a sense about people. And I pull away from any drama. Try to keep my opinions close to me and say no often. Thanks for this!
Dogs can have PTSD, depression and other mental illnesses just like human beings. So I won’t say dogs are good “judge” and babies/kids likes to stick to people who give in to them, simple as that.
The rest, I do agree. Great post!
I would have loved to ask him what the problem was. Cold you imagine if he told you what humans look like through his eyes. Maybe he was methodically trained to hate people because as a pup he was brutally treated, kicked or starved, broken-in how not to pee in the house, etc. Stuff, you and I would never do. People would never admit to stuff like that, often they are not even aware of the damage they are causing. My brother in law is the family’s animal whisperer so to speak. But one of his Beagles was barking at a cat yesterday so he lit a cracker and threw it at him. My wife had to wait for 45years to see his mean streak, going from doctor Doolittle to Masochist in 20 seconds. The dog is refusing to go home, (we live next door) and he can’t understand why not. I’m just saying, that people don’t always tell you everything
Sorry, one more thought. I hope I am authentic here.
Random, but once we had a dog that literally hated everyone. He just was not happy with life. He ended up at our house old, crank, and grumpy after going through 5 other homes.