DocAndersen
First off, what I am saying is an opinion. I do not intend to upset people. The big issues right now that authors have brought up. Please note this ranking was done based on the number of writers that mentioned each of the specific issues in comments. There are other issues as well, these just happen to be the most mentioned!
1. Time to approve posts
2. Ability to edit Comments
3. Ability to Edit existing or approved posts
Let’s go 3 to 1. First, editing posts. I wish to be clear that this is my opinion and some experience. There are a couple of issues when it comes to editing existing posts.
• Virily does not allow for plagiarized material
• Virily does not allow for profane material
We, as authors would have to agree upfront that all edited posts that after editing broke those two rules would be deleted. The current punished for cursing in comments is your account is banned for 30 days. I guess you would get your post deleted from the site and your account locked out of the site for 30 days. I do not know if this is a driver for them not allowing this, but I know several sites have gotten in a lot of legal trouble with various governments over issue 1 and issue 2 above.
Editing comments feels like something we could ask for in the short run. The same rules apply to comments. I would also like to add the author owning the comments on their posts concept. Some comments just shouldn’t be allowed to be on Virily. When you are forced to report a spam comment or a comment that you found offensive, it is possible the administrators or moderators will moderate that comment back to your post.
I would like to have the ability to remove comments from posts that I own permanently. I would also love to be able to edit comments!
Finally, the time it takes to approve posts. In part, things appear to have stabilized at between 2 and three days from submission to approval other than the weekends. My impression is that the Admin/Moderator team is much smaller on the weekend than it is during the week. It looks now to be between 2 days. I wanted to share a story of when I first joined Virily; at that time, the approval process often took 3 and even four days consistently. As most of you know, I write two posts a day every day. Based on that I was often 8-10 posts int eh pending category. By the way, this is not to say having to wait for post-approval isn’t frustrating. It is truly frustrating.
It is just that this is a long time the way things are the situation.
All this said I am going to list the issues again with a new ask, should we take it to the admin team. Please take a moment to consider the impact of each of the potential changes.
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Question of
Should we ask the admins for the ability to edit comments?
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Yes
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No
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Question of
Should we ask for the right to report comments on our own posts and have them remain removed?
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Yes
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No
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Question of
Should we ask for a service level agreement (SLA) of 2 days on post approval?
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Yes
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No
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Question of
Should we ask the admins for the right to edit published posts?
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Yes
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No
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Question of
Should their be rules around editing a published post?
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Yes
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No
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Editing posts is very important from the point of view of making them up-to-date. Already written my opinion to these questions commenting some of your previous posts.
Thanks! Your input as always is greatly welcomed!
I agree with all these questions that you submit for resolving. But I have one very important for me and other people who publish their own pictures. Be able to publish photos with more than 8MB. Editing to reduce MB is a waste of valuable free time for each of us.
Thanks! I think the unfortunate answer is the cost of storage. They, Virily, has to store the uploaded pictures. at 20 times 8 or less image it is 160 meg. if it is 8 or more meg you are looking at 200 mega give or take.
By the time you get to a gigabyte of storage you are storing far fewer images at a greater overall cost.
Perhaps a template that would allow one picture over 8 megs be uploaded?
Very important questions to bring up to the Administrator. I think Virily needs to make more users verified. I have been verified for a while now, and it makes things so much more enjoyable.
i can tell you that they struggle with making verified users. There are users that have been on the site as long as you or I that are not today verified.
They (the admins) have to be careful based on those people not really being ready to be verified.
Q: Should we ask the admins for the ability to edit comments?
Yes (14 votes) – 88%
No (2 votes) – 13%
Q: Should we ask for the right to report comments on our own posts and have them remain removed?
Yes (13 votes) – 87%
No (2 votes) – 13%
Q: Should we ask for a service level agreement (SLA) of 2 days on post approval?
Yes (10 votes) – 83%
No (2 votes) – 17%
Q: Should we ask the admins for the right to edit published posts?
Yes (13 votes) – 93%
No (1 votes) – 7%
Q: Should their be rules around editing a published post?
Yes (14 votes) – 100%
I agree with editing, it is embarrassing to write something especially in comments that I cannot edit.
I agree, as long as the overall cost isn’t more than the system can take.
right now, I’ve been told that you can request the admins put your posts back to draft so that you can edit them, so it seems like this could be feasible- especially if you edit before there are any comments…
I got mine back but not before I received comments on that post I have set right the errors and it is now awaiting approval again.
I did add the approval time to our list of initial issues.
I would hope in the page concept that comments are a separate text field. They should be safe even if comments have been added to a post.
it is, but if you can edit your post you could make it sound like the person who replied is agreeing with something that they wouldn’t…
Howard made a brilliant suggestion of a watermark on the original post so that the change date would be noted.
that should do the trick. or you could have a view history option but that could bloat the backend…
that would, an embedded watermark might do the trick
your editing comments request sounds like two different things- being able to edit your comments could be problematic, but being able to delete comments by other users on your posts shouldn’t be an issue
in fact you are correct.
I think one is much harder (edit).
Just wanted to make sure that authors have the right to remove comments as well!
I don’t know why that isn’t already the case. it doesn’t sound like a code heavy task, either…
I think it is more of a governance issue, honestly. But frankly, we are well into the world of speculation now.
we have been banished to the land of speculation, which is east of the garden of communication…
It would be very nice if we manage what you suggest. Sometimes I wonder if the admins read out our comment
I am pretty sure they do not, they have a lot to do without watching comments. I am going to send these directly once i get the communities input!
Well, at the moment my main issue is lack of free time. On other days, I may get these issues you mention.
Everything you say here is very relevant….
Time is one thing I cannot help with in anyway. Thanks for confirming the three so far Pam!
Here everything is beautifully written, dear friend … unfortunately, in practice everything is different … what is the approval of the post, but I have already said everything
I understand. I wanted to make sure I brought out your excellent argument.
We are thinking of time, but I will see what will … I will not be burdened with this anymore
That is the best way to be, what is, is.
Exactly so, my friend …. just now, look at who first approves the post … to the new ones, which is so and so nothing … up one post and you can not see it anymore
i understand that. It is frustrating, but there are many considerations beyond simply any one writer and any one post.
About editing posts – It would be fine to just get them in drafts so resubmission or deletion could take place. Can’t do that for some reason. If we sweat small stuff we might make the admins crazy; but, when you have a story with pictures and none of the pictures are there. ……..
If something is to be edited it should be more than some typo we missed (I’ve got some of those and it doesn’t bother enough to fix) however I believe that if you want to edit an existing post then it must be resubmitted —- I don’t see the problem if it is not abused by fixing commas or whatever. Maybe when we ask to edit we could state a reason. ? From the admin side I know this could be a can of worms – users have to be responsible to a large degree. (((((nothing goes to drafts anymore?))))))
That is a great idea, less risk for the site.
In journalism when an article is revised it says so and states when, where, and how:
This article originally published *date* “blah, blah, …” It was revised on *date* then it states how it was revised.
Much of our stuff here is not stating facts – it’s more op ed if that.
Off topic: When the admins were so open and available I feared what would happen for them. Can you imagine 600 emails per day about “I didn’t get a Virily” etc…. When they are dealing with our concerns they cannot deal with the work that makes the site function. Just saying. I am usually a very low maintenance user – I try to respect the work that needs to be done and its importance vs. my concerns.
Oh shoot, now that’s there forever! Ha, Ha, Ha —-> joking
click.
now the eye in the sky saw it. 🙂
the eye in the sky, says no.
Actually that is what one of the admins said to me in the an email, would you rather have us watching posts or fixing problems.
Can I edit that or something?
I agree to the above poll questions apart from No. 3. It might be the admin staff are fewer. Thus, it might take time. But, editing posts and comments is the right of every writer. I agree Virily should publish guidelines writers should adhere to and penalties. If possible they should include an automatic spam and plagiarize program to filter such. Then, the writer is sent an automatic warning or his account suspended for a month or so.
good points -thanks I like the guidelines idea.
Sounds like a perfect plan Doc. These are all issues we all want resolved or changed. But I gave up on trying to get a response a long time ago from anyone. But, on a positive note, glad to have all the new members here. Another great post!
thanks for the kind words.
Love the new members!
I am trying!
This post was a bunch helpful and if virily does what is suggested it might upgrade steps to becoming a top notch blogging website
Thank you! I am glad there was value,. We are trying to build a useful community
I am more careful on this site when entering posts and comments and so far haven’t needed to edit anything. There are times on another site when I have added to my post after a comment that was made gave me additional information that I felt needed to be in the post.
That I understand, i should spend more time checking things.
We could involve Admin in this discussion as we need to see their point of view and the reasons why these restrictions exist
Good luck with that one Grace. It would be ideal but, good luck.
I often wonder about the hierarchy of the staff. I do recall when they were often on the site they mentioned that they had nothing to do with specific things. While there can always be improvements, I am still very grateful for what we do have.
i do agree, the admin team and the moderator team also appear to be different groups.
it could be, the goal is to package these and send them to the admin team.
There is yet another issues that has cropped up and that is receiving countless repeated notifications, saying the same thing over and over again
I have alerted Virily Editor as also sent a print screen shot to support in an email message.
Am I the only one?
if you are talking about the 3 restrictions or limits we are a discussion I am afraid that information hasn’t been shared.
That said, I intend to take these to the admin team!