DocAndersen
I had a wonderful conversation in comments yesterday that I wanted to share part of it. The person said that she truly enjoyed Virily and the community. I pointed out to her that as authors our use of Virily does convey a level of responsibility. The first responsibility is to be fair and honest. I am fair means that you try to present information that is correct, but also that you don’t say things that are demeaning to other authors.
Let’s start there, and it is important that articles we publish don’ force users or the moderators to step in.
- Curse words in any language are not allowed.
- If you present information that isn’t factual – hopefully, other authors call you out.
- This isn’t a verified user versus another user issue.
I have and continue to nominate people that live up to the Virily rules for Verified user status (per the FAQs). We have added several new verified users, and normally this seems to happen once a year. There are several things that the admins appear to look for in moving users from standard to verified status.
- No reported posts or comments
- No direct public attacks of Virily
- No direct posts that attack other authors
- It appears a minimum of 15 months (give or take a bit) contributing to the site.
I will be honest, and this is in part from the FAQ and in part from knowing who has been made verified in the past two months.
I know views are creeping back up, and I wanted to end today with a thank you to everyone who reads and comments!
I’ve noted in the past two days that views are ticking up slightly. I suspect given the current frustration (old posts modified – pictures and posts separated. Unable to use quizzes easily being the two big ones), that people are still a little frustrated.
So again, to those who read and post, you rock. To those who comment you rock! To those who make comments about other authors or groups of authors, please consider the Reddit rule. Remember there is a human being on the other side of the keyboard.
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It isn’t us against them (standard vs verified, or verified vs standard) right?
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No
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It is ok to report someone that attacks other authors personally, right?
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Yes
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No
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Andre talked about starting awards for Virily, should we?
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Yes
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No
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Do you help other users when they reach out to you?
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Yes
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No
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Your comments here are right, I think some people are bullies but never see themselves.
I try to consider their views but that is not reciprocated.
So in a way they are what they are.
On the internet bullies I try to ignore but I have grown tired of conflict, having grown up with conflicts and violence…I do my best to try to be considerate.
I still on occasion fight injustice and disinformation. I do always stand up for those who are being bullied. I will not tolerate that online or in-person ever!
I do, however understand the sheer reality of doing this for years. It is painful
Yes, it is very heavy duty Doc…Not only painful but just tiring trying to be nice and make the point..falls on deaf ears because they won’t see another side
There have been a few authors like that on Virily. Many have moved on.
Congrats on reaching 400,000 views, Doc! I didn’t know that I could nominate anyone to become a verified user. Thank you.
yes, I believe you can nominate anyone other than yourself!
I try to use the same rules in real life as I do on the web. This answers a few of the questions. “Do unto others”…
About the awards, we already have them. They are called badges and are on your profile. So I had to click no on that one.
I had a problem with a user attacking another and I did report them. I think it is our responsibility to call attention to the moderators if something is wrong. Report if you have to. I did not know you could nominate for verified. Great thoughts and info here.
I find that there are many users here that use PM’s to abuse people now.
I also, as you know go after people that attack other authors. It has earned me a lot of very nasty PM messages on Virily.
I am growing tired of fighting.
I like that Virily gives verified status to those users who are “qualified” for it. It certainly lifts the burden off the moderators, since those users always provide good posts.
Thank you for always sharing the information about Virily. I am not so observant. Good to know more about the platform and the community. 🙂
Thank you for the kind words. I am finding out that in fact, the FAQs about verified users is completely wrong.
Q: It isn’t us against them (standard vs verified, or verified vs standard) right?
Yes (8 votes) – 89%
No (1 votes) – 11%
Q: It is ok to report someone that attacks other authors personally, right?
Yes (8 votes) – 80%
No (2 votes) – 20%
Q: Andre talked about starting awards for Virily, should we?
Yes (7 votes) – 70%
No (3 votes) – 30%
Q: Do you help other users when they reach out to you?
Yes (9 votes) – 90%
No (1 votes) – 10%
Writers need to be responsible whether on Virily or not. We write not just to earn but to document for the future.
I don’t like to report people personally even if the attack me. I believe in reaching out with goodness. But that is a personal thing, however if people go against the rules of the site I will report them here and in other sites.
I just got a mail from a site owner about how much he appreciates the attention I pay to his site.
If I find the site is unfair I just move on.
first congrats on the email from the site owner! That is a great achievement!
I agree with your points! I just started reporting users on my posts only a long time ago.
I think the posts here are more of factual than of false information. When I got to read one with false information then I comment on the contrary.
I do exactly the same thing – it is important.
taking personal responsibility for your community is part of being an adult, both IRL and in the web
IRL or not, that is well said. I wish people acted the same online as they did in the real world. less crap online then.
dunno, some folks are pretty crappy IRL…
IRL I can point out the behavior to the rest of the room.
here, you can’t (on the internet)
To be honest, I don’t pay much attention to the numbers, but I have noticed I am getting many comments lately which is nice. 🙂
comments are improving, views are improving. But we are down for both overall since September.
Doc, You Rock! I think responsibility is an important part of any person, group and community.
Being in a community like Virily with various differences among its users, ethics, and manners are needed and must be upheld because if I don’t want to be offended then I shouldn’t offend other users as well.
I think Virily will continue to change as we do, so hopefully, all changes will always benefit everyone, and all parties, based on our mutual care and responsibility.
Thanks Albert, it is true. My hope is that Virily will continue to evolve.
We have the same hopes, Doc.
i fear that honestly, Virily is dying.
That’s why I hope so much that it doesn’t need to happen after twice I became a member of a community like this and both of them failed to survive. One of them we were together there, right?
i think we were both on Niume! I don’t know my friend, the site is better than it was a month ago, but not where it was a year ago.
we are losing writers.
The rules that did exist have been thrown out by the admin team.
winter is coming.
Yes, we were together at Niume.
I do not understand what you mean by “not where it was a year ago”, is it getting worse?
I remember some friends who were still active or who had been inactive here had complained about the limit on the number of letters in a post that now seemed to no longer apply. If the minimum number of characters hasn’t been limited since the first time, maybe some friends will still be with us here, but… well, change always happened, isn’t it?
Overall over the last 12 months views are down. We went down during the site issues in Jan-Feb, and then September we went way down. We are back a little from where we were, but not anywhere near where the site was a year ago.
I worry now. There are too many problems.
I agree with that. This site does have many problems, but do you know the root of the problem? Is it a matter of capital?
I honestly do not know what the issue is my friend. I can speculate but that does no good.
Honestly, I think the issues are severe. A user, who has been here for 5 months was just made verified.
The reality is, that is a horrible idea. It sends we don’t care messages to every other author on the site.
No one has ever been verified that quickly.
Can we assume that it is part of a way to reduce admin burdens and user complaints but not paying attention to all the impacts which also means that they have violated the signs they made themselves?
Gibbons, the English Historian wrote of the fall of Rome. He talked about the days before the fall. (Gibbon Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire).
When the citizens no longer felt outrage Rome was in decline.
Whether you use it as an analogy or a sign, it’s very impressive!
In your opinion, should I feel worried?
i am really frustrated today in the real world and with Virily may I answer your question tomorrow when I have time to calm down?
That’s okay, my friend. Take it easy, no need to rush.
we have the executive review in an hour of my current account and strategic plan, stress is flowing around me like salt water!
But, aren’t you far from the sea, my friend?
i am but an hour from the sea and an hour from the mountains!
There is a mixture of mountain water and sea water there!
it is a mix of water.
If you go into the mountains in the state parks they have signs that say drains to the Chesapeake Bay, or if it is high enough and far enough West, drains to the Mississippi River. I love those!
Good to see views picking up. Others should also know they too can nominate verified users.
anyone can nominate anyone to be verified!!!
well except one shouldn’t nominate one’s self!
Others may not realize they can do this, that was my point. 🙂
my apologies I missed that part! I didn’t even think about that. you are right!
Me being one of them. I had no idea….
Congratulations to all new verified users. I have been working with people for 40 years so I am aware of the need to communicate ?
communication is the one verb that requires action to be in action!
I try to always be an honest and kind user to all Virily members, dear friend … if any one doesn’t answer it I prefer to leave it alone … I haven’t been in the comments and I will never be offensive
There is much truth to your words my friend. You are kind, and caring in comments and posts!
Thanks for the kind compliment, dear friend
🙂 I am going to focus on moving things forward on Virily. No matter what!
I don’t even know what to call you, dear friend … you’re a real fighter who wants to get to the bottom of it
In the IT world we call it a “get things done” person
I have changed my title to the commenter. That’s my current role here. I comment. I am glad the views are creeping back up.
I hope my talking about massive posters didn’t cause you to be hurt. If it did I am so sorry.
You, as the commenter would be a great addition to Virily, You as an author is an exceptional addition to Virily!