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The first group of influencers I am releasing is wholly based on numbers. The numbers I have collected are based on the following collection points.
- When that person comments on a post, does the number of views increase?
- How many guest views are related to that person reading>?
- When do that person comments others also tend to follow along (i.e., do they increase the rate of comments)?
My system isn’t perfect. If I had access to the admin portals, I could very quickly determine these numbers. As it is, I have watched these specific users throughout 10 or more posts each. Of the ten posts, I had four people’s posts as the control group (I checked them every day in the process). The rest I followed the people on the list by checking to see other posts they either shared (social media) or I checked their profile to see where their last comments were.
Without further adieu, if one of the following people comment on your post, you will gain between 20 and 40 views for that post. I would also note that these authors tend to post in certain categories or topic areas. I haven’t seen them post outside, or comment outside those areas, so I don’t have enough overall data.
Now each of the initial five influencers on the site has their areas of interest. If you start or have a challenge going on – get Kim involved! If you ask questions in your posts and someone to provide exceptional insight, you want to get Albert posting on your post! Alex gives great feedback and asks great questions of authors. (PS, call out for (Ghostwriter and LaJenna who always bring positive comments when they comment on a post. What that means is when they comment, all the comments after theirs tend to be positive. I will also call out Alibi, who brings a lot of views when they comment on a post. Finally, I know my name is on there, but in fairness, I do drive the most views when I read technology posts. The names are not ranked and I’ve included the links to their Virily profile page. More influencers are on the site, and more is coming, it takes time to pull all the data together.
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Question of
Does the first list of influencers surprise you?
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Yes
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No
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Question of
Will you watch and share with me, people that are gaining views for your posts?
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Yes
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No
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Are there people missing from this list that surprises you?
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Yes
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No
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I do not see any virily count when I vote someone. What to do?
I am not sure what you are asking. When you upvote a users post, the system should record that. I don’t actually track that for the influencers list.
Or are you referring to something else?
Users voted 12 times.
Q: DOES THE FIRST LIST OF INFLUENCERS SURPRISE YOU?
Yes (3 votes) – 23%
No (10 votes) – 77%
Q: WILL YOU WATCH AND SHARE WITH ME, PEOPLE THAT ARE GAINING VIEWS FOR YOUR POSTS?
Yes (10 votes) – 83%
No (2 votes) – 17%
Q: ARE THERE PEOPLE MISSING FROM THIS LIST THAT SURPRISES YOU?
Yes (6 votes) – 50%
No (6 votes) – 50%
That was as great list. I agree the list you provided are factually correct. They’re the top influencers. Kims quite keeps me going with her photo challenge.
But you forgot to put Carol DM. I haven’t been a member here for long, less than 5 months, but I have noticed her influence. And, History Gal.
First, please note the rules of the list, Second read the second post on this topic.
Great post DocAndersen. I sincerely wish the admin team use your expertise by granting access to more sensitive data. New sites like this would benefit hugely from collaborative efforts.
We have to support our community with positive messages. The admin team has enough on their plate now they don’t need to add other duties.
it blows me away that I should be a top influencer, since all I do is follow netiquette…
Yes, but people follow what you read and comment on!
I suppose so. My sassy remarks do tend to elicit a response…
in fact, they do 🙂 Plus your various WIPs might influence a few people.
Influence them how? Some of my WIPs are pretty freaky…
I just noticed a correlation of views increasing right after you post your new WIP. I could not give you causitive, because I don’t have access to the click-through data but from the surface that appears to be a driver.
correlation does not imply causation, but if you notice a trend then you can have some confidence…
I’ve noticed a number of evolving trends after sharing the influencer list. I would actually change the list now, with a name dropping off and a newer name appearing. There are people whose voice doesn’t carry as far as it did a month ago.
lists like these will always be a moving target
I do wonder about the overall impact of the negative posters. The site, about 8 months ago had people go from not on the top 50 list to the top of the list in less than a month. There was a bug in the Virily code that allowed them to save a draft, multiple times and get credit for each draft saved. ie if i saved a draft quiz, opened it and saved it 20 times, I got credit for 600 virils. That forced the admins to the site in ways that I suspect now, have caused the issues they are having.
fixing bugs and introducing new bugs has that result. they need to rethink the architecture that allowed such bugs to emerge in the first place
I suspect now you are hitting the problem. They encounter bugs because of Mosiac running on a windows 7 box. How do you plan for Win 7, win 8, win 8.1, win 10, Mac 10ish for older Macs, 11ish for new macs, oh year and 4 different browsers for each? Oh and 5 different browsers for each of the PC’s and don’t forget the 12 different flavors of Linux for desktop users.
You plan for the middle and hope the edges don’t connect. Oh, by the way, remember the polls I did about how people connect (browser and computer) yeah the edges connect here.
the metrics are server side, so browser compatibility shouldn’t be a factor
That is interesting but as you know the configuration of browsers and OS connections such as Flash, Java and other plugins are where the issue lies. Each OS handles certain operations differently 🙂
the dashboard is back up now, regardless
I suspect the process of the dashboard was working all along. They were just keeping it offline due to the other issues they are chasing.
I suspect you’re right, since there isn’t another reason why that would break. Why they chose to do such a thing and not set user expectations first is a mystery to me…
I think Kim said it best “you beat a dog long enough and it won’t come back.” We, the author community have been pretty negative towards the admins I don’t blame them for hiding. I would.
But if I were the admin of the site I would also knock several of the really negative posters, and a few of the Facebook complainers, sit in Virily jail for a couple of weeks.
But they created the problem in the first place by choosing to remain silent. Had they decided to get out in front of the issue, much of the panic could’ve been avoided…
Were you around when the admin team used to have banners on your profile page? So many of the complainers well whined about that the admins stopped doing banners.
They used to be in the facebook group as well. No more, why? becuase the whiners have taken over that group.
Alex, I respect you, but you are wrong.
As Kim said you beat a dog long enough and it won’t come back.
Two wrongs don’t make a right. Virliy should announce major changes, period. They don’t have to reply to everyone, but they should at least keep us informed. In fact, it would send a stronger message if they ignored inflammatory comments while responding to valid questions
If they’re really being silent because of the whiners, that punishes ALL the users. That’s both unfair and unprofessional…
Ignoring the fb group is fine, they’re under no obligation to participate there but we shouldn’t have to play telephone here
They did try with banners to inform us of changes and so many people complained it was pulled.
I suspect they aren’t good at communication but let’s give them credit they have tried.
It is a two-way street.
I don’t criticize the admins for pulling the banners, or remaining silent for the most part, but things like the GDRP compliance or dashboard issues really need to announced. Large policy changes or bugs need an explanation. Virily is a business and communication is needed
As long as we acknowledge that they did try to communicate and it was roundly rejected.
I am not an apologist, I would much prefer communication to silence.
I am, however, as a long time email administrator, well aware of the natural recoil when we are criticized.
When it is someone near the top of the site lists, doing the criticizing, it causes admins to recoil more.
I don’t say they never communicated, I don’t even say their reaction isn’t understandable, just that it isn’t a workable solution. Indeed, it most likely just fuels the fire
Understood. I used to get emails from the admin team all the time, Now I get them, but not very often. The last one was well before the dashboard issue.
We are in violent agreement I suspect here. We are both saying they did communicate, but their lack of communication this last time probably hurt them more than they realize.
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Most of the time, they can get away with being incommunicado, but for major issues or changes, some sort of sitewide announcement is needed. Otherwise, the reaction we observed was the expected behavior…
I would argue that the response (silence) was actually expected. The hue and cry is expected, I am just asking people to be consistent.
I’ve seen a lot of “I got paid posts.” Which is at best crass, at worst digital rude. I haven’t seen a single one of the complainers generate a new positive post. It is just sad for them.
why wouldn’t you consider “I got paid” posts to be positive?
Because not everyone gets paid every time. Look at me, is the last thing the person says right before something bad happens!
Only certain people post I got paid posts. They also post negative comments about Virily, not helpful for guiding useful negative comments (the dashboard isn’t updated my Virils earned for the month (bad) it is, however, tracking everything else properly).
1. I get 10 messages every time those posts start popping up from other writers that are hurt or frustrated and move on.
2. If it were the first time someone got paid, and they post that I love it. The time you get paid is a big deal.
The 2nd, 3rd and so on, not nice.
The 4th and on, just rude.
I hadn’t considered that. My take was that it is an acknowledgement that Virily was working, and to reassure other users that the site still paid out…
But you pay more attention to what is going on around here, while I am largely oblivious. So I need to reconsider my stance on this
First, off Alex, you are a huge influencer. You bring readers and thinking to every post you comment on.
I am honored that you take the time to comment!
Just because I’m little miss popularity around here doesn’t mean I am paying attention, it only means folks are paying attention to me…
You paying attention is interesting. Honestly, if you are an influencer (and you are) and you aren’t running around posting only negative things on the forums you are influencing positively.
Influencers have to be really careful about negative posts. When a writer on Virily makes a negative post it has an impact. when an influencer does that it has 2, 3 and even 5 times the impact.
I don’t want to be a bull in a china shop
Sometimes you have to be the bull. It is the balancing act that many don’t understand. You have to consider where you are, and what you are saying. At some point, if it is balanced, you end up in pain.
I don’t want to be a bull, but I don’t always have a choice
There are always things to think about…
But to quote an old adage “He who bears the truth must share it.”
I’ll see your adage and raise you with “Tell the truth and then run”
Thank you for the first thing in the morning laugh!
de nada, mijo! more where that came from
Me? Are you sure you put me in the right the list?
I agree with Albert, Carol should make the list… and pprobably LaJenna…
LaJenna got an honorable mention for always adding nice comments to posts she reads. But yes, as you read posts you bring other people as well.
Oh yes! Make a 10 people list and have them in it :p
Hmmm… I didn’t know I bring people …
I hope what I bring are real beings… lol :p
ROFL~
the list is done at 7,
I don’t have time to dig deeper.
Yes, I understand, thank you for you time on these issues!
Must not been easy 🙂
It is something I did as much for my own knowledge as anything. I wanted to know who was impacting my posts!
These posts are so interesting Doc, I had no idea..
Honestly, I would have projected the list much different had you asked me before. Data doesn’t lie,.
Me too, I just figured the top ten were the ones.
I did when I first started, two of the top 10 right now don’t post at all or very seldom. The rest of the top ten are often influencing, but they come and go often.
Ah that is true, it takes a while for a top ten to get off the top ten when they quit posting.
Congratulations, Kim! I am surprised at all that your name is on the list. You make amusing and sensible inputs everytime plus your challenge games are a lot of fun. ???
oh-oh someone loosed a pixie on Virily!
Correction: I am NOT surprised at all that KIM is in the list ?. I am sorry. I was playing Uno with my 10 year old nephew while typing that comment. But I guess if you read the whole comment you would figure out I respect this lady a lot. Again, apology for missing to type “not” ?
lol, I understood. I did read it twice at first though, whew. I was surprised because I know I don’t bring any outsiders in.
Wow, thank you so much Pixie! You put a big smile on my face. 😀
Maybe you don’t bring in outsiders, but you bring in that unique, lively, sassy vibe that is called Kim energy and that is all that matters ?.
I was playing Uno with my nephew and losing ??? when I typed my comment. I always multitask, you see ? but dang, a kid was beating me in a card game. Please forgive that typo ?
Awe, how kind of you. 😀
lol You can’t let them win! giggles, I totally understand. I wonder how many multitask here when reading or replying.
Isn’t multitasking more of a norm than exception? Office training. I can read while listening to music too and can banter with the girls in the side ???.
P.S. The 10-year old kid is the one who taught me Uno. The same guy who taught me how to play Temple Run when he was 5 ?. Kids these days are way smarter than old peeps like myself ?
This is a good list and i am hoping that I will be a good positve influencer.
I suspect you will. The second blast of influencers are coming today. The first blast is the move the needle writers. The second blast is the bring more Virily readers to your post group.
you don’t have to mention me just because you have to… i know I don’t bring people here. haha. i wish i have that convincing power lol
You, in fairness, are not on the next list either. I was merely saying that if your goal is to influence – you are well on your way!
yes, i don’t influence anyone. haha. and I don’t have any intention of influencing also, like if they will be influenced why not. if not it’s okay also.
I don’t believe that you don’t influence anyone. 🙂 At the very least you have influenced me.
? seriously… thanks ? I do appreciate this. i want to get the badge for emojis also haha
Interesting I have only just come back to Virily yesterday, and do quite a lot of photography. A lot of time is spent on editing.
Plus some of the best aerial views of New Zealand! Glad you are back Pam!
Since I know all these people by name I am certainly not surprised they made this list. I always do my best to go through posts and comment before I post anything new but it is no always possible for me to get to everyone. Thank you for also reading some of my posts.
I kind of had the same reaction when I started pulling the numbers. The next blast of influencers is another interesting group as well. Coming today!
I was surprised by two things: first, there was no name Carol there, and second, there was my name there. At first, I think I don’t fit the criteria you’ve mentioned in your previous post. For this post, I didn’t even dare to be the first commentator.
What he said, almost word for word. But I wasn’t surprised to see Albert made the cut…
I created two measurements, movers and shakers are people that generate more Virils for you, than they do for themselves. The next tier generates more Virils for themselves, but still generate a lot of traffic to the blogs they read.
Then, in which your measurement criteria am I in?
1. View and comment – you are one of the five highest on the site. When you view content and comment you bring 20-30 other views and many comments with you.
2. Your posts, often rise quickly to the most commented posts list.
For number two, isn’t that because I always try to respond to friends’ comments in my post as soon as possible? …and I think you always do it too.
I consider it a double compliment, and I thank you even though I don’t really understand what you mean. As a learner, allow me to get your input, is my writing style awkward, unusual, too convoluted, or even confusing?
I love your feedback, brother.
hopefully the explanation above helps!
Actually, this question I asked Alex for his reply, but thank you that you explained a lot in detail.
You have good talent and a smart head. Not a surprise to see you made it to the list. Happy to see all your names there.
This post is truly magical and full of surprises, even getting a special visit from a Goddess.
Hey, dear soul sister… so glad to see you!!!
That is the gemini talking ?. But hey, I am really happy to see your names in Doc’s list altho it did not surprise me at all.
I meant to thank you one of these days except I had been travelling in Vietnam, Cambodia and just got back from China.
It’s funny that you remember me as Gemini, which I often didn’t even realize.
You’re most welcome, but actually, I don’t really know what you thank me for…
How long do we not talk to each other? It seems like a lot of time for you to do all those tours!
@Gemini – – – Lol! I love some aspect of astrology, that’s why.
I thank you for your insights. 2018 was both a great and challenging year for inner growth. I come out better, wiser, stronger albeit peskier ??. And yep, I travelled solo from November until December then travelled with the witches and the kids to China this month. I just got back in the country and travelling home as I am typing this.
I am so glad that you have plucked a lot of wisdom and meaning throughout 2018.
I look forward to seeing the pictures of your tours soon.
I shared some in my FB microblog but I stopped sharing in my personal timeline and other social media.
@plucking wisdom – – – yeah, I am now enLightened ??? that is a joke, brother ?
It’s time for me to start learning from an enlightened friend here!
Btw, I wait for your tours pictures here! lol
The reference about “enlightenment” was a joke, in case you missed that part. However, let me say that when life kicked me and I was viewing my life from the ground-view, I was able to see things better – – – and grateful for it. ?
In many possibilities, a joke is merely a real situation that is transformed into humor.
We know that the most important part of life is to accept the kick and thank it instantly.
The second list is coming today, it may help you with your first issue. The second isn’t that you are the first commenter. When you comment, you bring many other authors with you! People follow what Albert is reading!
I’m so glad and feel a little mean to other writers if it’s true that I have brought other writers to what I read!
You are a needle mover, when you comment on posts, 20-30 people read that post!
I am surprised that you are surprised ?. But Doc Andersen is right. You do give beautiful and comprehensive insights and exchange of comments with you is always fun. I was, I have to say, expecting almost all the names there including Carol. Where is my other favorite lady named Ellie? Another sweet soul.
If a rare visit has made my cheeks blush, what will happen with a regular visit?
Doc puts Carol on a different list. Ellie has reduced her activities here because of her busy life.
It is always fun to see the pixie fliting about!
Oh yeah, I read the one with Carol’s name on it before this one. Got curious who are the rest of the influencers and so I read some more.
This post of Doc I find quite impressive and useful. I don’t doubt, given that he is a technologist, that he can make analysis such as this one but what is impressive is his initiative to do it without being asked.
And hey, what is wrong with congratulating old friends like you, Kim, Alex and Carol? I always loved fencing words with you guys plus the ever-supportive Doc Andersen and Carol Taylor.
We have read all the reasons of Doc has made this cool analysis, and whatever it is, what is clear is that this is very important, and useful.
Wrong? There’s noting wrong, not at all… Maybe the traffic will be more festive if you take to the streets too.
I am only doing microblogging in FB since late April because I had no wifi. A blessing in disguise, I have to say, because my following grew without trying hard. I guess, it is a good thing. I plan to make changes in my life so writing in Virily and in my blog are not my priority right now. I sustain my FB page to feed my creativity.
Awhhh… Alright… I’m not going to argue and demand anything from an enlightened person.
Ellie doesn’t post on Virily as often as she used to, but she is still around!
Well I hope Ellie is happy with whatever she is busy with.
She seems to be, she is on the site and still contributes, not as much as she did on Niume. I miss the desert pictures!
I’m not surprised at the list. I was expecting these people on the list.
Thank you for the kind words. Yes, I have to say the first time I pulled the numbers this list was different. It has over the past few months begun to evolve significantly.
I agree … some things change here rapidly.
yes, they do. nothing stands still online