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So Many Wonderful Posts Worth Opening So Low Daily Limit…

Hi all!!!

I really tend to open all the posts of every each one of you but unfortunately, the daily points limit for opening posts is way too smaller than the number of wonderful posts daily published… There are so many wonderful posts that I would love to take a look and open so sometimes I even open them for later even though I reached the daily limit… I do not open only the posts that I fancy the most, I also open the ones that I am not that much interested in and upvote each of them because I think everyone should be granted and rewarded at least for their effort even though the theme they are writing/publishing about is maybe not something that interests me….. I also open many of them now and comment later…..

I was thinking and kind of started making a poll about this and the way you are opening other people’s posts…

Also, there is a lot of notifications and comments that I got on my latest posts, I was not that active during the last couple of days, so I will answer them all a little later…!

In case you missed some of my latest and newest posts:

Before I Continue Posting I Want To Apologizeโ€ฆ.. + Thank You Virily For Making a Forum !!!!! ๐Ÿ˜‰ย – NEW!

One More Photo from The Coffeeshopย – The post that you probably missed since it is not currently visible on my posts page!

Photos from Another Coffeeshop

and polls:

Some Virily Problems And How Would You Change the Look of the Virily Main Page? POLL

What Do You Think About My Paintings? POLL

Letโ€™s Talk About the (New) Virily Problemsโ€ฆ POLL

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  1. I have to say l agree with everything you said and I usually don’t agree that easily. It’s a waste of time and effort to worry about whether or not someone reads a post. Who cares? And how would anyone know for sure that someone only opened a post and didn’t read? I don’t think it is fair to judge people that way . l would certain my not report someone for a “copy and paste comment” That is petty.

    • Thank you very much, I’m glad someone gets what I said and explained.. (I already answered on your comment below so just not to repeat myself and to add I’m glad you read all the comments and expressed your opinion, thank you for your effort!!!) It is nice to know that someone actually likes what you posted but giving Virils is also a way of appreciation…! And yes, I think it is not necessary to report except if something highly insulting or “too spammy”…

  2. I don’t worry about the limits. I read articles that I like and comment without even thinking about it. I feel its like a big snow ball, the more real interaction you do with people the more friends you make and the more great experiences and information you get to enjoy.

  3. I don’t have to argue with this. I know that the owner or the admin of this site as well as the moderator has to keep on track of unintelligent browsing or opening of posts, images, polls, quizzes or whatever. The limit serves a control. That is my opinion.

  4. I had no idea that there were limits. However, I will continue to do all that I can for this wonderful community here <3 I haven't been here for very long, but I've met a bunch of awesome people from around the world already ๐Ÿ™‚ I'm loving it! Thank you for sharing your knowledge, my friend!

    • PS I am glad you are enjoying your time here, I like it too because of the beautiful artistic posts ๐Ÿ™‚ Sorry for not commenting this earlier, I was very down because of some “mean” comments below :/ ๐Ÿ™
      And welcome… ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • Let nothing get you down, my friend. There are always going to be some problems with some people. Some people just have a bad day and take it out on everyone else… You are an OUTSTANDING artist! Don’t worry about it ๐Ÿ™‚

        • Thank you very much, wonderful words…! ๐Ÿ™‚ Yes, I suppose that happens to all of us and can be the thing here, although it looks more like a permanent opinion… :/ The comments were about something Virily themed, not about my art, but, anyway, Thank you very much, I am VERY glad you think so!!!!! ๐Ÿ™‚

  5. AN IMPORTANT NOTE!!!!!: I see some of your comments are focused on “gaming the system” and similar….. I wrote this post to focus on the thing that I regret not being able to open as many wonderful posts I like not on that other “playing the police” part…..!

  6. Gaming the system is always bad. I find that I am extremely limited when it comes to time, so I tend to read what I can when I can. In fairness, I do have favorite blogs that I always read. That cuts into my new blog time!

    • I’m always opening as many posts as I can, but since there is no more thumbnail look I sometimes open some posts that aren’t that much interesting and then don’t have enough Virils left for opening other posts that are much more interesting, and especially the ones from my favorite publishers…..! ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • And the system cannot be gamed people, why are you even mentioning that…..??! There is a limit of 50 Virils for posts and 100 for quizzes and polls, when you open that many posts you stop getting Virils, how could you possibly game the system here…..?!?!

        • I know. But it is not “gaming the system”… I would rather like a person to “engage” in my post with his comment, it is more pleasant than a copy-paste comment, but like you said, you don’t have the time to read and answer all the comments, therefore there are probably people who don’t have the time to write a different comment on every post so they quickly “copy-paste”… That doesn’t have to mean they didn’t take a look at your post….. And like I said in one of the comments below, we should all have so many different things in mind when making a conclusion….. At the end, that person gave you 2 points and earned 1 for himself!…..

          • The reason I can’t read every comment is that it is very hard to find all of them.
            I could not disagree more about copying and pasting comments. It is truly gaming the system because you get virils regardless unless the owner of the postmarks your comment down and reports it.

            Sorry, but that is gaming the system.

        • Like I said, not everyone has the time so write all the way meaningful comments, like for example, I don’t find AT ALL that complicated finding comments of people who cared to at least write SOMETHING on my posts and to return them a favor or to say thanks…..!!!!!

        • Why do you even care they earned Virils on your post…..??! You earned them too, and much more thean they did…..! It is not like they are breaking the law or stealing $100000 from you, it is 1 or 2 Virils, the 1000th part of $1 for God’s sake……….!!! Reporting is just when someone is behaving really bad not for them giving you a not that engaging comment, Jesus…..!

          • A comment is a connection between the reader (I found this something worth communicating about) and the writer. As for the rest of your comments, I won’t waste your time replying. I would if I did that just copy and paste the first line over and over again.

        • I never copy-paste, if you haven’t noticed, I’m just telling that I tend to understand the ones that do….. If I have to understand that you find it difficult finding comments (AND I DON’T), and I always find the time to answer all your comments like you probably noticed, and to comment on a lot of your posts (you are posting a lot and also posting a lot of pictures like almost no one does), why do you think what I said referres to you…..? And shouldn’t that understanding be a TWO-WAY STREET…..? I mean, why is it hard for you to understand that if I or anyone else opens 150 posts in 1 day, and there is only 50 Virlis to earn by commenting, or even if there weren’t any Virils nor points, why do you think a person MUST have time to comment on EACH OF 150 OPENED POSTS…….? While you just find it difficult to find comments, pf…..?!

        • How come you DON’T HAVE the time “finding comments” of people who HAD the time to put whatever comment they put……. It is not ok then to talk like that about the ones who also have the time to properly comment on EVERY POST THEY OPEN…..

          • I hear your frustration, I do understand it. I do miss comments, I try to go back and catch them but I don’t always succeed. There are easier ways to present comments, since the site generates a lot of noise (guest view, new post and so on).

            I think the critical thing here is the point I made earlier. This is a conversation between the reader and the writer. Anyone that copies and pastes the conversation from one writer to another writer is breaking that bond. I don’t police them, I just don’t interact with them.

            There are many reasons why people do the wrong things. There are fewer reasons to do the right thing.

            As I said, I do hear your anger.

        • It’s ok, sorry for my loud frustration….. I’m not that angry, it’s just why people mind that that much…?
          I do vote for everything meaningful, but like I said we shouldn’t mind that much the ones who do… Visiting posts just to get Virils isn’t THAT bad…
          And, since there is now a 20 characters limit, I find it very un-meaningful, because, sometimes, a comment that is consisted of just 1 word is more “loud” and sensible and has more meaning than 20+ characters written just to fill that limit!…..

          • I completely agree with your statement. The value of a comment is not the length, the reason they had to make it a 20 character limit is because of the copy-paste commenters.

            Effective they (the people that forced the rules) caused the issue.

          • Copy pasting short comments was actually one of the reasons the editors listed for the move to 20 character minimums for comments. It is also why they added the report button.

            Effectively they are part of the problem, in my book I just press report when I catch them and move on.

        • There are way too more elementary “mistakes” and problems and things not that well thought through things on the site to be worried or bothered by that… Also, I am not that kind of a person to Report not that awful kind of thing! I am sorry YOU feel the way you do…..!

        • Sorry for saying this but I would be more bothered posting 100 almost the same photos in one post, or the same photos in different posts, photos of things that don’t have much of a sense and then expect to be commented sensibly…

        • And I’m sorry but I have much better things to do (here) than reporting such s HUGE FRAUD like. Copy-paste comment! I myself sometimes write very similar or same comments on posts for many different reasons and obe of them is certainly English is not my native!!!!!!!!! There are Tons of reasons why a person can do that and for me it is not a very human thing to do especially HERE, this SO serious site…..! Where much more important problems arent fixed for months!!!!!!!

        • I don’t know what you mean…..? You are sorry me being a human…? Anyway, it doesn’t matter, I don’t find this discussion comfortable at all!!!!!, nor this post was about this…..! The focus was on wonderful things – posts…..!

        • PS I also see you are very much set in your argument yourself because it seems you heard nothing of the arguments I pointed…. It seems you are easily pointing your finger on others while you never point it at yourself…..

          I am sorry and my intention was not to insult you, like I said, I am not that kind of person…..

        • I just have one more thing to add… If opening posts without reading them is, like you said, “gaming the system” (I mean here, on this site…)…, why would they even bother to invent the “upvote/downvote” button directly on the front page, so you could grant a post without even opening it nor reading it… Also, if you’re keeping up with the updates, there were points at one time for the upvotes and reactions too, on the photos inside the posts too, so I think, this IS an earning site where the admins are trying their best to enable earning the best way they can. And there is nothing wrong with that… Meaningful conversation and posts ARE important, but it is not “gaming the system” when you open a post “just to get Virils”, cause “the system” here currently isn’t made that way, and like I said, even the admins enabled to get them more quickly at one point…
          Of course, when that option was enabled it would be most fair to at least comment on the author’s post because he wasn’t getting any rewards for being upvoted and the reader could get much more Virils than the author…

          Regarding reporting I am just not that kind of a person, especially not here where there is almost no one acting that way, and even if they did I certainly wouldn’t bother reporting them… Only if it was something that would upset me as a person, something really bad, bad, insulting words or something like that, then I would think about it perhaps…..

  7. It is pretty easy to see how this could be abused, though. If a person simply opens and closes one post after another just to get points, it would be an attempt to game the system. I’m not at all saying that you are doing this but it is easy to see how someone who was prideful might.

    • How would that be the attempt and how could even the system be gamed or abused here …..? There is a daily limit in Virils. When you open 50 posts or 50 polls and quizzes you stop getting Virils. How could you game the system…..?!?!!
      I like to open as many posts as I can, to earn as much Virils as I can AND to return a favor to other users that are reading/opening my posts! What could ever be wrong with that?????!

      • Many articles that have substance take 3-8 minutes to read. It is gaming the system if a person opens an article, waits a couple of seconds for it to load fully, then closes it and moves on to the next post, all without reading the post. They are merely opening and closing posts to get points. That isn’t truly interacting with the author of the post, it is merely gaming the system.

        When people take the time to actually read what is written and to then interact, it is honest and would then not be gaming the system. People who write because they honestly like to write and have something to share don’t want people to just open and close their articles, they want people to read them. That is also why I seldom write very short articles. If I have really nothing to say and for people to read, I don’t write. :))

        • Hahah, it is not gaming the system… “The system” is the daily limit in Virils, and opening posts without reading them is something else… I don’t see anything bad in that… Because, in that case, both sides get Virils, and especially the author… Of course, I understand what you want to say and of course that it means a lot more when someone actually reads your post and interacts, but I see opening and upvoting posts as a gesture itself..
          Especially that some people sometimes don’t have the time to read every of the 50 posts they opened….! ๐Ÿ˜‰ And also when you’ve already spent your 50 Virils on commenting other people’s posts although I sometimes comment even if I don’t have any Virils left….. ๐Ÿ˜‰
          So it is a tricky theme and we should have all of those things in mind when making conclusions… ๐Ÿ˜‰ That is why I think there should maybe be a different system or limit… ๐Ÿ˜‰

          • That brings up the question of why people are posting at Virily. If the only reason is to get Virils, they should probably re-examine their motives. I write to share knowledge. I’m a writer and that is part of what writers and bloggers do. Getting virils is merely a reward for the writing.

        • And sometimes you open a post to see what it is about and acknowledge it is something totally different than what you thought it was, so you just upvote for the effort and go to another post… I know it sounds awful but it is a common thing so it shouldn’t be taken that personal…..

          • It is quite rare for me to open a post without reading it. Interestingly, only of the goals in titling posts is to at least occasionally give a title that is sort of a play on words, to get people to read the post. That is something I taught when I was a senior manager at Helium (that was a writing site).

            Incidentally, Helium researched how many people actually read the articles, how long they spent on each, and so forth. You might be surprised to know that most people *don’t* just open them to see what they are and then close them, perhaps giving a brief comment. Most people, according to that research, actually read was what written, more often than not. The average page view for articles at Helium was 8 min, 20 sec. Most of the articles were about 600-1200 words long and this indicated that people were actually reading the articles.

        • I also like to write and post when I have something meaningful to say but sometimes I just post a simple photo and a short text because I felt that way at the moment…. Not all the things should be that serious all the time…. ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ˜‰

        • And if we are already here, although meaningful interaction IS probably the most sensible and important but earning Virils is also the reason we are all here and not on an other site that doesn’t pay, right…..? ;)))

          • Actually, it isn’t why we are all here and I do write at Quora, without pay. I also have a personal blog and have never monetized it, so I write there without pay.

        • I agree with you here Rex. When someone spends several hours writing something with thought and purpose it is disheartening to know that it is just being uploaded for the sake of increasing one’s viril count. There are times that I find comments that lead me to believe the person writing them didn’t read the post or was not able to understand the content of the post.

          • Read all my replies and 1 more for you:
            it is more disheartening when you also put A LOT of effort and post for exaple about your art and that person who you granted, if nothing else than, with at least opening and upvoting their posts for hundreds of times, almost NEVER grants you at least the same…..!

          • And:
            People choose to put their effort and time in something they are interested in, so not one of you should take that โ€œnot that meaningful engagingโ€ in your posts that personallyโ€ฆ..! Like no one of you who comment like this almost never even open nor upvote nor comment not 1 of my MEANINGFUL and to me IMPORTANT posts while at least I do open and upvote yoursโ€ฆ.. If you are not interested in my meaningful writing and THE THEME that Iโ€™m writing about why would you care if someone else is not that interested in your theme at allโ€ฆ..

          • If you are not interested in my art or photos why do you mind if someone is not that interested in your theme but still gave you those 3 + 2 points and earned 1 + 1 for themselves…..

          • I just have one more thing to add… If opening posts without reading them is, like you said, “gaming the system” (I mean here, on this site…)…, why would they even bother to invent the “upvote/downvote” button directly on the front page, so you could grant a post without even opening it nor reading it… Also, if you’re keeping up with the updates, there were points at one time for the upvotes and reactions too, on the photos inside the posts too, so I think, this IS an earning site where the admins are trying their best to enable earning the best way they can. And there is nothing wrong with that… Meaningful conversation and posts ARE important, but it is not “gaming the system” when you open a post “just to get Virils”, cause “the system” here currently isn’t made that way, and like I said, even the admins enabled to get them more quickly at one point…
            Of course, when that option was enabled it would be most fair to at least comment on the author’s post because he wasn’t getting any rewards for being upvoted and the reader could get much more Virils than the author…

        • You are lucky when earning here doesn’t have to be that important to you…..

          Meaningful writing, posting, commenting, engaging, interacting is something I prefer, but like I said, there is not always enough time to do everything with a meaning. Sometimes I (and probably many other people) just want to play (this, at the end, is not that serious site nor a place), or am not in the mood, so I just open other people’s posts and ALWAYS upvote EACH of them to reward the effort and to know which post I opened and which not…. I think just opening someone’s post is also meaningful to some people and they appreciate it….. I don’t always have the time to comment on them too, you know…..! And to some people Virils are important too!…..

          I rather mind people not ever opening nor upvoting nor commenting almost not 1 of my posts when I opened and upvoted 100 of theirs even if I’ve put a “not that engaging” comment or not commented at all….. At least I opened it and upvoted and granted them for SOMETHING, because, like I already said, not everybody has the time or are in the mood at that moment to comment too on each of 150 posts they opened…..!

          • Actually, through the winter, ALL of my income comes from writing. It is extremely important, but I won’t cheat in order to make money. I’m not that prideful. Instead, I try to consider the good of the site and the writers who often put a great deal of effort into what they write. The site and those people are far more important than I am.

        • People choose to put their effort and time in something they are interested in, so not one of you should take that “not that meaningful engaging” in your posts that personally…..! Like no one of you who comment like this almost never even open nor upvote nor comment not 1 of my MEANINGFUL and to me IMPORTANT posts while at least I do open and upvote yours….. If you are not interested in my meaningful writing and THE THEME that I’m writing about why would you care if someone else is not that interested in your theme at all…..

        • If they’re so concern if a post is read, then why not make a minimum page view like 30-seconds or so? So that makes those just open and leave gets no points.

          And if users try to “game the system”, they’ll have to wait and it’ll make them stop or maybe even try to read the post.

          On the other hand, genuine users who read the post, then they won’t even notice the 30 seconds timer as it doesn’t affect them.

          I don’t know if you limit the points they could get per day is like punishing the genuine users too, which is not very fair.

          • I wouldn’t want that to happen because, then, there would be a much more fall in the value of Virils!!!!!!! So it will take at least 3 times more time to earn this already small sum of Dollars…..! No one is concerned but some writers here!… The admins are not concerned about that, on the contrary, they enabled us to earn MORE QUICKLY this way it is….!!! So don’t complain about that, the value of 1 Viril ALREADY DROPPED A LOT!!!!! We should tend to INCREASE IT not lower it down even more!!!!!

            Anyway, this article isn’t about that, it is about wonderful posts I would like all to open because they deserve attention and I can’t because there is a daily limit in earning points by opening posts (the limit is for the readers not for the authors!)…

          • In theory, that sounds great. In application, it is extremely difficult because of the coding that would be necessary to do it. Alex might be able to do it, though.

        • It seems like you haven’t read anything I wrote, like Doc…..
          It’s not cheating when you GRANT people with opening and upvoting their posts like they do open and upvote yours! You BOTH have something from it…..! Not every post is worth reading, especially if the theme is about something you are not interested in…! But it is very kind when people grant your effort even if they DO NOT like what you wrote about! Some people DO appreciate it, and not all the people are that serious like you or Doc are….. Most people here are for fun and earning too, but that dopesn’t mean they don’t care about writing or what they post…..

        • …And the focus of this post was on wonderful posts and that the limit should be higher, but you seem to saw something different….. That is how much you care about granting and reading and engaging in other people’s beautiful posts…..!

        • I just have one more thing to add… If opening posts without reading them is, like you said, “gaming the system” (I mean here, on this site…)…, why would they even bother to invent the “upvote/downvote” button directly on the front page, so you could grant a post without even opening it nor reading it… Also, if you’re keeping up with the updates, there were points at one time for the upvotes and reactions too, on the photos inside the posts too, so I think, this IS an earning site where the admins are trying their best to enable earning the best way they can. And there is nothing wrong with that… Meaningful conversation and posts ARE important, but it is not “gaming the system” when you open a post “just to get Virils”, cause “the system” here currently isn’t made that way, and like I said, even the admins enabled to get them more quickly at one point…
          Of course, when that option was enabled it would be most fair to at least comment on the author’s post because he wasn’t getting any rewards for being upvoted and the reader could get much more Virils than the author…

          Regarding reporting I am just not that kind of a person, especially not here where there is almost no one acting that way, and even if they did I certainly wouldn’t bother reporting them… Only if it was something that would upset me as a person, something really bad, bad, insulting words or something like that, then I would think about it perhaps…..

      • I have to say l agree with everything you said and I usually don’t agree that easily. It’s a waste of time and effort to worry about whether or not someone reads a post. Who cares? And how would anyone know for sure that someone only opened a post and didn’t read? I don’t think it is fair to judge people that way . l would certain my not report someone for a “copy and paste comment” That is petty.

        • Thank you very much, I’m very glad someone understood well what I tried to say and shares my opinion…!!! I do care if someone read something important I wrote about the site, like the recent things (the Virily bugs) I published about, but that is something else… I think, and am glad we think the same way about it, that it is also a way of granting other peoples’ posts if we are not able to do more at the time, even though I also tend to comment too… I actually wrote more about this theme in some other “later” posts (I published after this one) after not being understood well here and unfortunately being accused of some other things too….. (at least I felt that way…:/)! And, also, yes, I agree about reporting comments, it is TOO PETTY, although some people here consider it “the right thing to do”, which I don’t mind, they should do the way they feel, but in my opinion it is really not that necessary…! :|( I also think that the “report” button is only for some highly insulting or “too spammy” comments and that actually the admins take care about that (and that it’s not on us that much) since there is already the rule for “spammy comments” which will reduce 5 Virils…

    • Thanks Steve, I learned that a long ago when communicating with the admins about some problems I had at the time…, but now I wish there is a higher or a differently made limit, or simply the main page to look different – for example a thumbnail look so you could know which posts to open and which not – finding interesting posts more easily!…..

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